360 Oil Availability

Hello,

having issues acquiring Redline 5w40 with ZDDP in the Montreal area which I have been using for 17 years in my 360. Cannot get any Mobil 1 5w40 or the currently approved Penzoil Platinum Racing 5w40. All I can get which resembles anything discussed on the forums is Penzoil Platinum Euro 5w40, Valvoline SynPower 5w40, Castrol Edge 5w40, or Mobil 1 0w40 (which I am weary of using).
What would you guys suggest, am I over thinking this? Just want the best for the car.

 

My vote would be Mobil 1 0w40 .. but as you mentioned it is common for all of us to overthink the motor oil

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Overthinking. ZDDP was a critical additive in pushrod engines to combat cam/lifter wear. Ferrari has not had cam wear issues since 1974 and ZDDP or lack of it has just not shown itself to be an issue.
I have been using Mobile 1 0w40 in my own and a great many client owned cars with complete satisfaction. I have no idea what your reservations would be.

 

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Another vote for Mobil 1, 0w-40, especially in Canada. I use it here in southern CA, and it only gets down to the 30*F here at night.


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I use the Penzoil 5W-40 euro. ZDDP additive can be found too.

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The additive stuff can wreak havoc on your cats if you drive it regularly.

 

Yes sorry forgot to note that. I think I toss in a few oz not the full.

 

Is anybody doing any oil analysis like through blackstone?

 

As said before, ZDDP was needed for pushrod engines especially those with high spring pressures. It was first reduced in 1994 and again in 2004. Automobile engines are lasting longer than ever before. If its reduction was an issue to us we would have known about it long ago.

Where are all the stories about cam wear problems? I have not read one.

 

Why? Are we trying to determine the cause of all the Ferrari engines wearing out prematurely?

After 40+ years of this stuff one of my observations is Ferrari engines almost never wear out, they get broken and magic oil will not change that.

 

I use Penzoil Platinum Euro 5-40 now. I used Mobil 1 in the past. Don’t remember why I switched…….. probably something I read here???????


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No, just curious if anybody tracks deposits or wear. I'm pretty confident in both the engine and off the shelf oil. I don't even run additives in my solid lifter engines and they've lasted hundreds of thousands of miles.

 

I like Redline for the super high grade base oils they use (unlike LM and M1 these days). The higher ZDDP add pack is a nice plus.

 

Its very good motor oil and in the Bay Area its for sale everywhere. I have even seen it for sale in grocery stores.
Its all I used when I lived there but their distribution to any other part of the country sucks.
You can get Mobile 1 for a screaming deal in Walmart. And its sold everywhere.

 

This is a little comical!

If you are looking at BaT auctions, how many are planning on your car getting >10, 20, 30, 40, 50, thousand miles? Does this make any sense for anyone?
If you are reluctant to put more than 30,000 miles on your car for investment reasons, what difference does what oil you put in make? You just need receipts documenting it was done every year. What difference does it make what they put in if you plan to put <100mi/month?

 

Remind me not to buy a car from you.

 

Brian, I don't know much about oils. From what i understand, Even tho it flows faster, I always thought 0w would create more wear on start up because its thinner. Can you or anyone give thoughts on this Thanks

 

Wear at start up is from lack of lubrication, not too thin an oil. Lack of lubrication is from lack of flow. Lack of flow is the result of thick oil.

0w40 is thicker at room temp than 40w oil is at 200 degrees so how can it be too thin? Whoever made that statement has a complete misunderstanding of multi weight oil.

 

I don't remember who or how I got that into my head. But that's why I never and will never claim to know anything about oil. But I appreciate your response very much.

 

Then don't get your information from internet chat rooms. I'd be very happy if everyone here ignored everything I said if they also ignore everything else too and instead get their information from reliable sources.

 

I never said I got it from an internet chat room. I have no idea how or why I thought that. That's why I asked the question

 

Thinner at startup is better because the oil can more effectively coat surfaces.

A 40-50-60 straight weight oil would be incredibly thick at cold start and would provide much less coating and therefore much less protection at cold start.

To the OP, Mobil 1 0W40 is incredibly cheap for the quality of the oil and will do you just fine.