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360 Oil Change - How many quarts?

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  1. F360Dave

    F360Dave Karting

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    How many quarts are required for an oil change on a 360?

    I did a search but could not find an exclusive answer

    Thanks!
     
  2. chris360hawks

    chris360hawks Formula Junior

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    Usually 10-12 I believe.
     
  3. Ingpr

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    It depends. Usually it takes between 9 and 10 quarts. But it all comes when you are filling the system with the engine hot and running. Be carefully when you are putting the last quart because you can overfill the system. The manual says that it takes 9.95 quarts, so what I do is that I insert 8.75 quarts first then I start the car until it reachs the operating temp and then I insert the remaining oil step by step using the oil stick. Sometimes that last quart take me half of an hour to get the exact amount of oil.
    Good luck!
     
  4. mrpcar

    mrpcar Formula 3

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    I always starts with 8 quarts and then run the engine hot until I see the oil temperature gauge at it's proper operating range, with the engine running I then check the oil level. Before adding oil I shut the engine off. Drive around few more minutes and check again. I generally end up adding 8.5 quarts. I don't try to fill it to the top of the stick, I am happy with mid point, that's plenty of oil.
     
  5. chrmer3

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    #5 chrmer3, Jun 23, 2010
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    Everytime I have changed mine 10.5 quarts + or - a TAD has put it where I want it on the dipstick.. I believe full capacity is 12 quarts from memory..

    on the 8 quarts reply above, you sure you are removing BOTH drain plugs? That seems awfully low for amount drained....
     
  6. mrpcar

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    Both drain plug and the screen filter too, maybe the car is not level on my lift.

    My notes from last oil change says 8.75 quarts, I may ended up having to add another half a quart couple month later.

    I rather be low on oil than overfill. There are plenty of oil in the system, no chance to oil starvation anytime.
     
  7. F360Dave

    F360Dave Karting

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    Thanks for the responses - helps immensely!
     
  8. mrpcar

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    Update... I must have counted badly previously. My latest oil change (last weekend) resulted in putting in 10 quarts so far. Will check in another week or so after putting some miles on her to see how much more I need to add.
     
  9. ttdang123

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    A quick add on question:
    How do you guys check the oil? I checked mine according to the manual w the engine warm + idle and got a lot of foaming on the stick. Not easy to read the level w foams. Any advise would be appreciated

    Thanks
     
  10. mrpcar

    mrpcar Formula 3

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    Dang - I ck my oil level with the engine running after the car is fully warmed up from driving, not just idling.

    I used to get a lot of foam too until I switched over to Redline 5w40 oil.
     
  11. chrmer3

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    Foam as said above is due to the oil you are using... Mobil 1 I would guess...
    I did as the above poster did... switched to Redline 5w-40 you can buy it in gallon containers from Summitt racing.. (3 gallons & will leave you approx 1 1/2 quart as leftover)
     
  12. Ingpr

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    Totally agree!
    RedLine is the way to go. I use 10W-40 because of my weather too hot. I also use RedLine additive for my coolant flush which I did this past weekend.
     
  13. chrmer3

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    #13 chrmer3, Jun 30, 2010
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    Is there a tutorial on coolant flushing/changing for idiots yet on f-chat? Wanted to make sure I had the air bleeding figured out before I did that in the future.. Mine still good now but wouldnt hurt to have the know- how ;) btw Merry Christmas Ingpr ;)
     
  14. mrpcar

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    Chrmer3 -

    I just recently did a partial coolant change, in replace of the coolant I used distilled water + Redline water wetter. No need to worry about radiator freezing here in Souther California.

    You can partially replace the coolant in two ways:

    (1) From the front radiators, there is a plastic drain plug on the bottom of each radiator you can unscrew and drain coolants from there, but not much will come out. You will need to remove the front under tray to get to them, would be a good time to upgrade the crappy factory screw clips while you are at it.

    (2). Drain from the front radiator and then remove the engine belly tray and disconnect the vertical coolant pipe that goes up to the thermostat area. That will yield additional coolant.

    To fill I use the "airlift" system combined with a shop compressor. Work perfectly without the need to bleed the system. http://www.amazon.com/UView-550000-Airlift-Cooling-Checker/dp/B0002SRH5G It is a very quality made unit, I was very happy with it's performance. Lots of shop uses this to solve trapped air problems in today's cooling system.
     
  15. chrmer3

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    Thanks for the heads up!!
    Seems pretty straightforward... I have a lift in my garage so I choose to do a lot of this stuff my self, I can take my time & I usually polish/clean the underneath as I do maintenance.. Keeps the car like new & I really think I am more meticulous than someone who does not own what they work on..
    To fill I use the "airlift" system combined with a shop compressor. Work perfectly without the need to bleed the system. http://www.amazon.com/UView-550000-Airlift-Cooling-Checker/dp/B0002SRH5G It is a very quality made unit, I was very happy with it's performance. Lots of shop uses this to solve trapped air problems in today's cooling system
     
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  16. mrpcar

    mrpcar Formula 3

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    I have a midrise scissor lift, which works well for mid or rear engine cars, would love to have a two post lift but residential cookie cutter houses in California just didn't factor the garages to accommodate a two post lift.
     
  17. Ingpr

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    LOL!!
    Thanks!!
     
  19. MikeR397

    MikeR397 Formula 3

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    Just changed my 360’s oil. Got 10qts out, put 8.5 back in, warmed it by idling for 10 min, kept topping off slowly and checking back up to 10qts. It barely registers on the dip stick. I tried driving it for 10 minutes after already idle warm and it was hot when I got back, 160 engine oil temp on the guage, needed glove to hold dipstick ect. It still registers low, barely on the dip stick!

    I defiantly don’t want to overfill, so how is it possible I need to likely put in 1 More qt for 11 total? I let it drain for about a full hour until no More oil came out, including lowering it down to the floor on jacks and raising up (front tires wedged).

    Thoughts?
     
  20. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Did you read the book? There is accurate information in there to help you. It was written by the people who know the car best.

    This thread is full of disinformation and is a great example why the book should be you first source of information.
     
  21. MikeR397

    MikeR397 Formula 3

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    Yes, and checked the oil hot while running. I also noticed the 75nm torque for the 12mm and 14mm drain bolts is too much and following the book on that will strip the bolts as many have posted doing.
     
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