is this still the best option today? Home FoW was saying there might be a local solution on the horizon but I have not been able to verify. they explained the factory options and it spirals quickly if for any reason your ECUs have been switched - which they can NOT determine prior to going that rout. Now seems like a good time of the year to take care of this. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/348-355-sponsored-bradan/519755-fobs-pin-code.html
I will be sending him my immobiliser and fobs next wk to hav pin code retrieved. I think it's the best option out there. Cheers
I was having some odd ball starting issues that pointed to the immobilizer and I sent him an email describing the problem. He called me and guided me through a few tests and sure enough after months, problem solved! I'd send him my immobilizer and would be sure it would be fixed. Great guy! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I'm a bit of a traditionalist and so decided to fix my "I only have one fob" problem in the traditional way, by dealing with Ferrari of North America. My car came with only one fob and I was terrified of losing or breaking it. If that happened, the car would never start and I was told by one parts guy that they would have to replace the entire security system to get another fob (US$3500) I got my (really outstanding) technician to call Ferrari of NA to try and get the number in the fob. That cost me $600 but they did find the number and it did match the fob I had so I was in luck. They say for a 15 year old car, it's almost unusual for the number to match the fob. Then I had to order a new black fob and two red ones ($800). They're on the way and the number is fixed into the fobs by fiddling with the ignition key (something yet to be done). Then throw the old fob away, use the new black one, put a red one in the glove box and another red one in a box on my desk. All expensive but gets the job done.
David- Odds are you will get three black fobs with one marked master instead of one red master and two black fobs. Here are the instructions on how to fiddle with the key. Need to update these to include Immofixer eventually. The checklists have been used by dozens of owners successfully. Image Unavailable, Please Login
This is exactly what I did, only as I was in Dubai I had to pay Middle East tax as well as Ferrari tax... the final cost of getting 3 fobs and a pin code was eyewatering to say the least but, I rather suspect, will pay for itself come resale time.
That's mainly the point. If you expect to get some serious attention come selling time, you better have the books, the tools (all in leather cases), two keys and all the fobs. Strongly suggests someone has taken care of the car.
These were/are available on ebay in just about every color last time I checked. I forgot the search terms though? Anyone recall?
Is this PIN code a 4 digit number? I have two such codes - one for radio and the other is this one? Thanks for any input and happy motoring
Look in the document I attached above and it has images of the PIN code document. It is a four digit code. There is also one for the Becker radio.
Hi all, got a key fob problem. Got three new black fobs from Ferrari North America. One master, two slaves. I followed the instructions to the letter, numerous times as per the inclosed document. After inputting my four digit number and waiting a count of five, the red light burns steady red for a few seconds, then goes out. (At this point I can start the car). I get to the part where the red alarm light should start flashing after ten turns of the key (as many as 20) but it never does. The steady red light goes on for a few seconds then it goes out and stays out. It never flashes. Never responds to pushing the button on the master fob. Am I doing something wrong? Image Unavailable, Please Login
If the LED comes on and then goes out, continue going back to off and back to on until she starts flashing. Mine worked on the 11th time I turned it to off and back to on, but it may take more times according to some owners. At least you have confirmed you have the correct old PIN, a big deal, and can correctly enter the PIN code to start her, another big deal. Some owners have real problems getting the code entered.
David, when you get this done, let me know and I will connect you with my friend Mark who does cloning - he may buy your old fobs if reasonably priced.
OK, for posterity and maybe any of you having to deal with this, here's the secret: 1. The "rhythm" of key-on, key-off has to be perfect. No pauses or hesitation, even exceptionally small. If any of that occurs, it queers the entire effort. It must be smooth, predictable and consistent. Timing must be perfect and each turn-on-turn-off must be very fast and each the exact same time space. 2. I figured out that the distance between key-off and key-on differs. You can turn the key a lot from the time it turns the electrical and the time the key locks on full on. So if that distance varies, it means it isn't consistent and the computer won't accept it. I figured out that the distance from key-off to the very beginning of key-on is a very consistent distance, not very much of a turn actually. You can turn the key further, but it's wasted distance. The ONLY distance you want to go is from dead key-off to the shortest distance to key-on. Every time. The sound of the key tells you if you listen. So I was VERY careful to insure I was turning the key the exact same distance each time and in the exact same timing. When I got to the portion where it took ten turns to show the flashing light (computer ready to accept the new fob), I was VERY consistent and it ultimately flashed in 17 turns, following which all three of my new fobs were accepted into the system. Now the new Master is on my keychain, the first slave is on a box on my desk on the second key chain and the third slave fob is in another box elsewhere. If the dog eats my master and I'm away from home I can start the car by putting in the new four digit number.
David - be sure to do the following (if you have not already) - I assume Ferrari has the new PIN associated to the VIN, if not, report it. - write the new PIN down in many places - manuals, and even in the car somewhere This is such an ongoing problem. Document the hell out of it for future owners.