360 Spider vs. 430 Spider

Funny how that works. I'm in a similar place and completely agree!

 

It's got a better camera!!

 

THat is hysterical! Bad analogy.. How about "Everyone that is married could have been single BUT not everyone who is single could have gotten married" now doesn't that look silly?

 

Your analogy doesn't make sense in the way his does. Remember, everyone can marry someone, but not everybody can afford to marry a woman of the elite class.

 

What would a fair price be for a 30k miles '06 F430 Plain Jane Coupe (gated) that listed new for $170k

Thanks

 

Talking from personal experience a mint condition 100% original paint on every panel including the front bumper, up to date on services, no mechanical issues, good tires... I would pay $110K after a solid PPI, and if the car was just major serviced and a new clutch installed (not that it may need one but I think it could need one soon) then $115K.

That price I think is fair for years 2005 and 2006 F430 cambio manuale and I wouldn't pay a penny more than that for an F1 shifter, but that's just my preference.

 

Thanks for the price check, I will be looking at it soon.

Patrick

 

You car decision is all subjective and +1 on interior comments and the outside is 100% subjective, I like the 430 "sharpness" better, but the 360's curves sitting by itself is awesome.

...but for the model; take the 9! ...dont worry in time she will be a 7.

 

As someone who did not have the option to purchase a 430 in 2003, the 360 spider was it for me. I have updated the entire aluminum interior and all the sticky bits to CF. It makes a world of difference in the interior appearance. The 430 and even the Enzo will subcome to the sticky bits that are cross platform compliant. I have even updated the wheels to the 430 5 spoke. So yes I have a few less HP than a 430 but here in SoCal the traffic puts both on a even keel.


I say drive both, admire both and purchase the one that makes you feel the best. In the end its all about the recurring wow factor of knowing there is an fcar in your garage.

 

My thoughts:

1. Wheel spin: The F430 can better control it b/c it has a ediff. If you want a computer nanny to restrict power artificially, then it's great, but personally, I want a car to have just enough power that I can break wheel grip and power slide if I want to. The 360 definately has enough power for that. Avoiding wheel spin is perfectly achieveable by a little less flex from your right toes . It's not fun to let the car do everything for you, or you'd end up having a GTR.

2. Shifting - I think your 360 is a 2003/04? If so, disregard probably, but compared to a 1999-2002 TCU, the CS TCU is just pure magic. I was driving my 360 last night to the movie theater, and could not stop thinking how perfectly I think it shifts now. It's very crisp, very smooth, great line take off (and on a 77% worn clutch too) and the downshift blip blip blip across the entire rev band is better than sublime. It's the best mod that can be done to a 360 with an older TCU, especially considering you can save the stock TCU and later sell the CS TCU at a higher price than you bought it years later. Can't say that for other mods.

3. Looks - I agree with your assessment. Both F430 and 360 are beautiful, subtle differences, but I'd be very hard pressed to switch between either model based on exterior looks alone. If you want to update, put F430 wheels on the 360 and I think that makes it look 100% as modern on the exterior as the F430 and the curves keep it even prettier. The interior can be updated with carbon fiber, yellow tach, ect. CF is pricy stuff though.

They are both supermodels for sure. If it was just an issue of liquidity and opportunity cost, sure why not, but figuring in immediate lost value of taxes paid, PPI/inspection/shipping/acquisition costs, potentially having to sell your 360 cheaper than you'd want to move it in a timely fashion, ect, I'm really voting against this change you are considering. If it was a 16M or Scuderia you wanted, and the $ was not a major issue, it'd be all for it. As is, I think it's too pricey of a switch for the added value you appear to possibly get.

Regardless, good luck. You have one of the nicest stables already on Fchat for sure.

 

Moving up through a logical sequence of models 328 - ( 348 SKIP ) -355 - 360 Spider , I also considered moving into a 430 or Scuderia. Nevertheless, the appeal of having multiple models to drive became a better option for me.

Having found a " reasonably priced " CS at auction, the combined cost of both vehicles equaled the cost of a 430, hence my decision to convert my Spider to full CS specs and have an unlimited amount of spares for quite a long time as well as the option to rebuild the CS.

To me, the 360 has that nice balance of true sports car / exotic.