360 Spyder at MSRP

Maybe he said he was best friends with a certain someone rebuilding a P4 - perhaps?

 

Napolis,

is your friend anyone famous ?

 

I propose we run a little test. With nearly 3000 members of the FChat community, we must have every U.S. dealer covered. I'm going to drop in to FoSF today and report back with availability/waiting list status of 360 Modena and Spider. If FChatters from other areas would do the same, even with a phone call, we should be able to get an accurate picture of current availablity and price. This may be of limited value, since Ferrari dealers can't sell new cars to buyers out of their area, but it should still be of some interest.

Gary

 

Well, not really. The whole intent of my post was to assess the nation-wide situation. I know from your post that ONE person walked into ONE dealership and bought a 360 at MSRP with minimal wait. I wonder what's happening everywhere else. It was your information that prompted my post. Unless you know that EVERY dealer in the country now has Spiders and Modenas that they are selling at MSRP with minimal wait, in which case I'll delete my post.

Gary

 

Gary,

I suspect that calling any f-dealer or visiting to casually inquire about purchasing a 360 @ MSRP will yield a dramatically different answer than walking into one and saying, "I have cash and want to buy today".

As a result of this, I don't really see how having all of the members call/visit a dealership is going to result in an accurate representation of the nationwide 360 market.

Greg A

 

no you're not

 

I would pass unless you can get it a few thousand under sticker. They're just making too many of them to justify paying sticker for them.

 

Guys, the prices will ultimately go down. nothing last for ever but all i can tell you is that ferrari of Long Island has a waiting list of over 20 spyders to be delivered. i would not have believed it unless i saw it with my own eyes. Again nothing will last forever!

 

I can only speak for my local dealer, they have over 70 names still on the waiting list, all of which would gladdly pay sticker for a car. My car came in three weeks ago and I was offered by more than one of those people on that list and decent profit to sell my car to them. I can not believe with waiting lists for these cars someone with no history with a dealer could just walk a bypass all the people the dealer has on the list.

Sorry, I do not by that, I will say yes the glory days people paying $300,000 for a spider are gone, but the days of walking into a dealer and getting a brand new 360 for list or below without being on the dealers list or having a history are not here either.

 

So can I assume you advised your friend to pass on the Spider at MSRP and he ignored you?

Gary

 

Totally agree -

I also agree with James - over the next 1-2 years as the Ford GT, the Bentley GT, the Gallardo, and the 360 replacement hit the marketplace - all essentially in the same price range, the prices for 360's will gradually decline. However, availability is still an issue and the intangibles associated with Ferrari is still an issue. So dont expect 360's for $80K in the next 2 years!! IMHO

 

We've obviously got a disconnect here...the world according to Napolis (who is clearly quite a guy, appears on CNN and has raced at LeMans, and no, I'm not being sarcastic) and the world most of the rest of us mortals see, where you can't walk in and buy a Coupe, much less a Spider, at MSRP with little or no wait.

Gary

 

It's amazing all the talk about these mythical, unnamed, dealers on one coast or another. What are the names of these authorized dealers who are selling spiders at MSRP? Why be secret? It's not like they're doing something bad.

 

Napolis:

Are you able to give out the dealer's name?

 

This us spider has 3k miles a buy it now price of 191,500 and I have seen it listed on here at least 3 times with no takers. Reputable dealer, so if demand was that high why wouldn't it have been snapped up by now? Not everyone has to have a new one so I guess supply is catching up with demand.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2447712456&category=6212

I would be curious to see the percentage of a "list" that bails when it comes time to put up or shut up. I would guess its pretty high. After a year or two when the "new model Ferrari novelty" starts to wear off I would guess many people change their minds.

 

Jeff,

The car you have mentioned is an 01 with very few options, daytona seats and shield and the warranty almost or is expired by now. the sticker on the car should be around $180K so not a bargain at $191K imho.

 

Its a 2001 - close to a 3 year old car and it is still $191,500

 

in my opinion these are the prices spyders are comanding these days:

01 $190-$200K
02 $200-$215K
03 $215-$235K

Again depending on who the seller is , dealers VS private sellers.

 

So if you could walk into a dealer and buy a 2004 at MSRP, you'd be crazy not to, right?

Gary