Hi all. I'm a fairly new (I've had the car for a bit more than a year and driven roughly 1,000 miles) 360 CS owner. During my tenure, I'm noticing some odd handling characteristics which are likely partly to do with my ignorance and unfamiliarity with the handling characteristics of the car (and mid-engined cars as a whole), but also wanted to float my concerns in case something is in need of attention. The car has 18,000 miles and had a PPI performed at Ferrari San Antonio in October of 2021. It's wearing PS4's (as of December 2021). Recently, I'm noticing skating at gear change (upshift) and alarming dartiness. When accelerating, even mildly, the upshift unsettles the car with moderate pitch to one side. On throttle while driving, the car can randomly, without reason seem to pitch to one side. This happens in race mode (the only mode I drive in, because why else have the car?) and seems to be persistent in 40-60 degree temperatures. Any thoughts on this? I've driven the car fairly hard, so I'm wandering if I've dislodged something or if this is a function of something else. Comments are welcome, even if they question my lack of talent.
Cold tires or old tires or tire pressures perhaps ? Might it not be a useful exercise to see if you can replicate the issue NOT in Race ?
Hmmm... Maybe a ball joint failure? The replacement of ball joints is commonplace on that platform. My 1st diag though would be check the alignment specs. If the toe is out (front or rear) you will get dartiness. The Stradale has specific alignment specs, and it is a much less forgiving chassis set-up than a pedestrian 360, so... Check the specs 1st.
Yes, check tires, my 360 was doing this, I had brand new ps4s, and they didn't seat one of my rear tires properly. When I would get on the throttle it would pull to one side very noticeably... found out it was just about flat, got it fixed and never happened again. Sent from my SM-S906U1 using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Not convinced that incorrect pressures would cause the car to be unsettled with mild gear up shifts. Have you tried turning of the traction control? Does this make any difference? Have you scanned it yet? Not all faults trigger a cel.
If my tires are even moderately overinflated, the car feels like I'm driving on ice at high speeds. Wouldn't hurt to check.
Excellent. Good to know. I was already planning to check tires (which I should do anyway) before the next drive. Testing in different modes is a good idea too. If anything, the tires are under inflated, which would give me a less responsive feel. Thanks all for the suggestions. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
I'm very new to my CS as well, but could old motor mounts cause this? Engine shifting during hard shifting? Again, I'm new. If your PPI at Ferrari of San Antonio was as bad as mine, then it was about as good as not having one done and you just saving the $1,500. They would have certainly missed motor mounts. Keep us updated on what you find out.
I have this same issue, after having the alignment specs checked multiple times. My next stop is to change engine mounts and gearbox mount. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
The engine mounts can become worn to the point of being torn, and eventually this leads to complete separation of the upper and lower sections. The result is lurching during gear changes and hard acceleration.
Tire pressures affect this platform greatly, Also check sway bar end links not sure motor mounts would cause this… when they collapse the engine just sits on the compressed mounts.. more nvh. check worn bushings
They are also very sensitive to worn toe rod joints, especially in the rear. And rear toe settings for that matter. Many alignment guys do not understand how sensitive a car with power that hooks up well is to that. If total toe is good but L/R are not the same it can be a mess to drive.
Well, I feel a bit like a dolt. PSI at the front was off nearly 10 PSI. The rear was worse. Duh. Car drives as stable as it ever has (but is still "responsive" in all of the blood pressure alerting manners). Thanks for all the advice. I'm still going to have it looked at by Ferrari of Austin, especially since my horn has stopped working. Otherwise, all good.
