Best Investment of the Super Car Ferraris?

Buying a Ferrari as an investment is buying a Ferrari for the wrong reason.

 

As a pure numbers game, F50 or 288.

IMO, in the long term, the F50 will go down as the last manual trans Ferrari supercar ever made and will be the most valuable. And I want one.

 

The same could be said about the Enzo. First Ferrari supercar with the F1 transmission.

 

Your life would be just that much easier if i didn't bust your chops...


i don't see the GTO making any moves; it's been over 20 years since its inception, though, so who knows what'll happen in 10 more years... Of course, 14 years ago, people were paying upwards of a million dollars for a 288; apparently, one was sold for 1.5...

The F40 seems to be on a very slow but steady rise as far as prices go; again, who knows where it'll be in ten years... People paid insane sums of money for the F40, back then, too...

The F50 seems to be on a very slow decline as far as prices go; there's no gauging the market, though... You just can't accurately do it... Not one single person ever looked at a 250 GTO and said, "Yeah... That thing's gonna go for MILLIONS in 25 years..." There's just no way of knowing...

The NNO is too new to even think about predicting what numbers it'll fetch in ten years - ask us again in nine... i will say this; 134282 was for sale in California for over a year; gradually, the price continued to drop... i thought it was gonna be on sale forever... ()

 

In terms of value, you have to take into account the supercar competition that has been brewing in the last few years.

Normally it's been a Ferrari & Lamborghini thing to have a supercar.

The Ferrari F40 in it's time, really didn't have much competition.

The Ferrari F50 had the McLaren F1 and Porsche 911 GT1, but it was no where near F1 status-quo.

As for the Ferrari Enzo, it has cars such as the Porsche Carrera GT, Mercedes SLR McLaren, Pagani Zonda, Koenigsegg CC8S.. the list goes on and on. It's been a real surge of modern supercars in these late 90's and early into the 00's.

The 250GTO fetches such a high price also, because of the extremely limited numbers. Somewhere around 32-38 where made, correct?

Make a special edition supercar Ferrari now a days, with those kind of production numbers, and you'll see 1.5-2.0mil going for them.

Things that make a car gain value:

Low mileage, mint condition, factory-stock, all paper-work, racing credentials, production numbers, and if it's a record breaker in any sense.

 

36 were made; but if productions numbers are the case, how come 4.9 Superfast 0719 isn't worth a ridiculous amount of money...? There's only one... Only 14 365 Californias were made - and they're in the same time period as a GTO; built two years later... If a little more than one third of the 365s than there is GTOs, how come they never fetched 8 figures...? There's just no way to predict the market...

 

A) It's a 250GTO.
B) Enzo didn't think more than handful of people in the world could drive it.
C) Racing credentials.
D) Nothing sounds quite like a GTO.

I didn't say they were only a case, I said they were a factor. I did list a number of explanations why cars retain/go up in value.

 

F40 road cars = 1,311

272 288's, 349 F50's, 399 Enzo's = 1,020

 

Not that i'm looking for a pissing contest (my pants always get messed up) but i have 1,315 as the number of F40s... My source is Maranello Sales Ltd.'s 'A Guide To Ferrari Road Cars' (no affiliation (obviously) yadda yadda yadda)...

 

Well, 1,311 is the most commonly accepted number, the 1,315 number comes up occasionally...

Always some question as to what is correct, but again, the most accepted number is 1,311. (Does not make it correct)

BTW, John sold his Dino... He will be bringing the 288 to FQC, I may be there as well with the F40 and perhaps my wifes Dino. I plan on coming down in my Transporter.

 

That would be awesome...! They sold the Dino...? It was such a beautiful car...! Oh, well... i'll look forward to seeing you there...

 

288 GTO. less made. its older so more of them have been trashed / destroyed = much less around. I WANT ONE!

 

288GTO but for different reasons, the depreciation curve on them has now flattened out, due to age.

The F40 will soon experience the same thing.

The problem, reaper is that as you drive down the street, they will see no difference between the 288GTO and your 308GTB..the F40 they will notice.

I love the 288GTO though, no arguement there!

 

I don't see how an Enzo can actually appreciate right now. Even with the limited numbers I just don't see it. I don't see how demand will get higher and supply can't restrict that much.

The F40 is arguably the world's first supercar. When people think of "Ferrari" many people think of something that looks like an F40. Many people think it's one of the best looking cars ever made. Not neccessarily an Enzo or F50. The demand might actually go up as people get more money...it still is a very fast car. Maybe this is just me speaking.

 

Given the price listed of the poll...F50. I haven't seen F50 $475k for like 5 years now...not US cars anyway...they are down from the peak 18 months ago trading in the highe $700k and some reached $800k. F40 are commanding a high price now...not too long ago was much less...about $100k less. I think the Enzo is awesome for the original 399 folks...at over $1m, it is going to be hard to appreciate for a while...I never kept up with 288 GTO...I'd still probably go F50, I am hearing them chaging hands in the low $600k range...which I think is a solid price for the F50. Almost every F50 owner I've come across misses their car terribly afterwards and many have bought F50 again.

 

Gotta learn sometime, somewhere, right...?

 

I would say F40, as it is the most popularily loved I think. Even when one factors in it's relatively higher production.

F50s won't go too far, it's an absolutely amazing car for those 'in the know'. But they will never be as universaly beloved as the F40.

The F40 basically embodies 'Ferrari' and is really the most extreme of the Ferrari supercars in terms of driving expierence. It is this elemental essence, and myth and legend, that sells Ferraris in the first place.

F40 captured all that excitment at the height, and as cars get increasingly disconnected and remote, the gulf will only grow and become more appreciated through the years.

Switch 250GTO for F40 above, and the explination stands.

 

I bet on the F40. The reason is, age of perspective buyers. The F40 came out when I was a kid, and I saw it in many magazines and posters. It was the epitome of what a Ferrari should be in my eyes and it is a car I strive to own someday. As others in my generation get older and start making some bank ... the F40 begins to be attainable to some of us who lusted after it for so many years. I think that will drive up prices dramatically compared to the 288, and the F50 and the Enzo are farther off in the future for price raise in collectors eyes in my opinion.

 

Am I getting this right?

You could own ONE Enzo or you could scrape by and almost buy the F40, F50 and 288GTO?

I'd say the F40 would be the one.

The 288GTO is only really *super* to enthusiasts - I love it but honestly, most people would reckon it's a 308 variant.

The F40 is the first of the really 'super cars'.

T.

 

Rob, interesting that you put the 288GTO below the F40 in price...they are much rarer and whenever I've seen one for sale, its always priced above the F40's.

If it was my money...F40 please.

Cheers
Simon