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400 GT 2+2 #1135 available from Belgium

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  1. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #1 Olivier NAMECHE, May 26, 2012
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    #1135 has always stayed in Belgium.

    Delivered in Argento/Nero the 20th June 1967 to S.O.C.A.R.I.A., 1st Belgian Lamborghini Importer.

    The 2nd owner had resprayed it in "Blue cielo" and the current and 3rd owner had it resprayed in dark grey metallic.

    It has an 63.994 km on the clock, car is unrestored (exception of paint), always serviced & used for Rallies by current owner, ANSA exhausts replaced last year, tires have 2.000 km of riding, interior is original untouched !!!

    There is no book nor original docs. It needs upon my personnal opinion a major service, replacement of all fluids & geometry. I drove it yesterday, it doesn't smoke too much. When warm, engine revs smoothly up to 6.000 rpm whithout fear. Oil pressure was perfect all way long and temperatures (water & oil) stabilise around 80C°, yesterday weather was warm at 30C° without wind.

    If you are really interested (not just curious) you can contact me via this forum by Private Message PM or directly at [email protected] with your full name and contact details.

    Kindest regards
    Olivier
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  2. roytoy2003

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    It will be intresting to see what this brings...I have been trying to figure out where to price my recently aquired 1967 GT400 2+2 as well...

    27,000KM, truly all original, everything, no re-spray..nothing. Just getting full major service from Gary's, tires, filters fluids, brakes, new stainless fule lines...etc etc..only two owners, last owner having it since 1970!

    Keep us informed please...

    Stunning looking car.
     
  3. Olivier NAMECHE

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    Following the exchanges we had in the other thread 350 & 400 GT... about your excellent find, we were discussing the point : is a non restored 400 GT 2+2 worthes more than a restored one for Pebble Beach elegance concours ???

    I told you it should be a lower value... this one has an asking price lower than Autodrome - Paris 400 GT 2+2 fully restored by Edmond Ciclet and Lecoq - Paris.

    How will you price your car ?
     
  4. Peter K.

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    Just my 2cents and it mean nothing......but I would be willing to pay bigger money for an untouched example in excellent condition.
     
  5. FredParoutaud

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    generally the restored ones bring more, simply because the restoration costs so much.

    BUT -- I'll just add that one must keep in mind that the lower number 400GT 2+2s are in fact the last cars made by Touring. They are truly hand built by master body makers, panels pounded out by hand. Masterpieces of art, and in time these cars will jump up from where they are now.

    Plus, they are just stunning to drive. Like they were made by Lexus -- far superior to Ferraris of the time.

    Anyway, good examples should be around $200k, whereas fine restorations around $300k (and those don't seem to go on the block too often).

    I'm just throwing those numbers out there, don't hold me to them.

    The biggest problem with exotics in this price range is that the restoration can cost that amount. Pretty much any car can be restored for $200k -- so when that's the asking price, you can't make too much on the car. They still have a ways to go before they hit the magical equation.

    I think 350s are getting there, and interims even moreso.

    Fun stuff to ponder, but not nearly as fun as driving them. It's like driving a fine Swiss watch.

    Cheers,

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  6. Peter K.

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    I have no ideas on prices for these cars but what would an ok driver and a car with needs cost? Which cost more 400 or 350?
    Guess I'm just looking for some education on what the least expensive someone could obtain one of these. I really like cars with need as I like bringing them back over a long period of time :)
    I've always like the body better than the Esapda and Jarama.
     
  7. FredParoutaud

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    Hi Peter,

    Honestly -- I don't know. There aren't a whole lot of transactions going on, at least that I'm aware of.

    I'm thinking the 350/400 cars are simply becoming more valuable, especially when you consider they were some of the best cars made by Lamborghini, and there weren't that many made. Let's say 150 total. So -- there aren't a whole lot to choose from.

    The 400GT 2+2 ... they made 100 more, so about 250. They aren't as "pure" as the 350/400 cars, but frankly not many folks can even tell them apart. You can most certainly get one of these cars for less than a 350/400 (and when I say "400" I'm talking about one of the rare interim cars).

    So who knows. I think it's pretty much an individual case. You can have a perfect 400GT 2+2 go on the market and sell for $300k. It really depends on the example.

    Still, there's no question most of them are a good hunk of change less than a 350/400.

    I'm sure that doesn't answer your question...but oh well. :)

    Cheers,

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  8. Olivier NAMECHE

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    I drove it back to my home, and it is my 1st long ride, 180 km, in a 400 GT 2+2.

    Surprising hot ride... as I never had noticed before the effect of the sun through the windscreen on the interior tempperature... I had to open both side windows !

    Besides that fact, engine is smoother than on my Jarama, tuned like a racing car...

    My overall felling is a lighter car than the Jarama and after a fine service, it should be a great driver !!!

    About the price market, I know 2x 400 GT 2+2 reccently sold for 185k € and 230k €, both restored many years ago !
     
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    What's the bright red knob on the center dash?

    Looks great, I'm fond of cars that still have their original interiors. :)
     
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    #11 Olivier NAMECHE, Jun 27, 2012
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    It is a switch for the 2nd fan to be activated manually like on my Jarama GTS...
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    Good idea...although my first thought was "Ejector Seat" ;)
     
  12. Olivier NAMECHE

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    SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD

    it took 6 weeks to sell it.

    It is secured in the hands of an European Lambo collector...
    By respect of privacy, I'm not allowed to reveal selling price BUT as I wrote it went for less money than a restored 400 GT 2+2...
     

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