most of you have it right and know what's really important. on the other hand the few of you that are concerened about precious production #'s and the value of your precious enzo abosolutely disgust me, and furthermore should be drug out and shot. wait a better idea would be to strip you of all your material possesions and make you sleep in the dirt and starve, just like these people. and yes auctioning the car off and donating the money is a lot more of a symbolic gesture. writing a check is like giving your wife a envolope stuffed with money for your anniversary. i suggest some of you need to take a long hard look and the mirrior and do some self evaluation. introspection 101.
Apart from anything else if Italian law is anything like pretty much the rest of the world then the Ferrari higher ups are legally required to do what is in the best interest of the company, not the world. Although it might be a nice gesture they can not just give 1 million they have to either write it off tax, or gain good publicity etc, i.e do something that is to the benefit of the company it doesnt matter anyway, the outcome is more important than the intention
Gee, I thought my spelling was bad. Some of us follow production numbers, but explaining it would violate certain rules. We don't do it because we care about how much our toys are worth, we do it because we are interested in the history of them.
I hate to break the News to you GTE.......this is not only a good gesture by Ferrari it is possibly the best marketing deal ferrari can do without paying much out of their pocket (cost of car).......you have to appreciate the business aspect of what they are doing......not only is this 400/399 (quite unique).....but they are bringing positive attention to their car company that all the money they spent on F1 will probably never bring them (arguable point)..........who cares about 399, 399, 399.......only people that care about '399' are the people that will have such a beast become a GARAGE QUEEN.....people will care more about having a ENZO then a number.............when you tell someone you have ENZO #252...........what do you think they heard......'you only have #252'.......or that you have an 'ENZO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'.............by the way the Sultan of Brunei has the more desireable ENZOs..7/7.he owns all of them.........pink with Sheep skin seat covers................
maybe one should be so inclined more towards the history of the world and it's people rather than a ferrari. just a thought
seeing as there are no altruistic acts in this world no one can deny that ferrari isn't gaining something form this. its obviously not monitary but publicity sometimes is better than a check. ferrari should be applauded for their effort in trying to help make a difference. creating another enzo is a good idea as the auction money generated from this car could reach well over 2 mil. someone with a generous heart and wallet might shell that much partly to help the victims and partly to own 400 of 399. again no altruistic acts. anywho... thats not the point. ferrari is doing their part to help. this is probably more than any of us on this forum can do, and they should be recognized for it. my 2 cents. mike
i agree with you 99% of the time that there are no alturistic acts that we always experience reward for good behavior, whether it be a feeling it gives us or whatever. but i think that one of my friends said it best. "if doing things for other people makes you feel good than that makes you better than most". i have to agree.
I think it is a great act on Ferrari's part. Like everyone has said the demand for the Enzo is still very high and 1 more enzo is not a big deal regardless of what anyone says. I also believe that the Enzo will fetch much more than 2 million dollars because of the money going to the tsunami victims. It also not only generates some publicity for ferrari but also generates even more awareness of the extent of the disaster. I think it would be great if they made a special tsunami car from each of their model line (F430, 575M, and 612). If Ferrari wrote a check for a few mil not much interest would be generated.
I think you are right, Ferrari's credibility is going to take a huge hit - I heard on the wire that everyone on the waiting list for the F430 is reconsidering their position, several have defected and gone to Lamborghini because of this - what bull! Only speculators would care, not the Ferrari enthusiasts... Maybe you own an Enzo and you are worried about the drop in it's value....sorry - it's for a good cause - If you don't, then this is one more opportunity to own one when you grow up! The only credibility that is getting hurt is yours - talk about picking the wrong side of the issue. I'll you a number 200,000 - 1/3 of them children, that should put the numbers thing into perspective. Now instead of ranting about Ferrari's inappropriate action- ask yourself, "What am I doing to help the Tsunami victims?"
And post your comments down below in the politics and religion section. Let's get back to talking about the cars up here.
has this car been produced yet? any pics?? wonder if it will have a special plaque saying it was for the tsunami victims fund.............when is the sale going down
I definitely applaud Ferrari for donating money to the tsunami relief efforts, but I think they could've done much better than just eating the cost to build one Enzo, without deviating from the planned production total. That's what will be coming out of their pockets, regardless of what that Enzo will sell for. I believe individual Ferrari employees have donated more than that.
Oh, I donated. Don't worry. I just can't believe people failing to see my point. This is not me complaining about Ferrari donating money. Just read my posts again. My time is just a little too precious to explain the same point over and over again. Feel free to disagree, but disagree upon the merits of the viewpoint, not in an apperant lack of willingnes to try and understand it. In the mean time. Lets wait for the next disaster, so Ferrari can build Enzo 401 up to 450, allthough I can tell you that if the disaster doesn't carry enough media-attention, Ferrari (or any other company) won't be doing a thing about. This is commercial. The charity is a mere side-effect. It is just a little too naive for my taste to applaude Ferrari for this kind of thing. I would be applauding if they'd wrote the cheque and leave the publicity out of it.
i don't understand the big deal about Ferrari making one more than they originally stated... They originally stated they would make 349 F50s - there are WAY more than 349 F50s...! There are a few that share the same serial number...! Naive is thinking that this is Ferrari's first time doing this... As for the POINT of the 400th Enzo, i think what Ferrari is doing is great... The 400th Enzo isn't just available to some special, long-time Ferrari customer - anyone with money will be able to have it... Not a used one, not a "pre-owned" one, but a brand new, delivery-miles-only Enzo... That's great publicity for Ferrari and whoever springs the most cream for it will be donating to a worthy cause... Everyone wins here... What's the beef...?
How is this commercial? What will Ferrari gain from this? They already sell-out of everything with a prancing horse on it, so where is there room for improvement and gain? They could even sell a giant pair of pliers with a prancing horse on it, and I'd buy one right now, then mail it to your place, so you can remove the giant log thats stuck up your ass. Get a clue.
I agree that's this is nice of Ferrari. And it'll replace a totaled one . Plus this will be a special car being #400 and for the reason it was made. But, wouldn't it be easier/better to just donate a million or two (and it costs about 400k to manufacture). I don't think this will fetch to much over a million seeing as you can buy one for 900k-1.3mil. But, maybe some rich guy want's a new one and too much money, or just a kind heart.
What GTE keeps on wittering on about is: why don't Ferrari just donate money rather than try and capitalise on the disaster to improve their PR? Don't flatter yourself GTE, that's not a difficult (or original) concept to grasp, but Ferrari, like all companies, exists to make PROFIT! If they can donate the manufacturing cost of an Enzo (not insubstantial) and get some car-nut philanthropist to lay out over-the-odds money for it then great. That's still more money than you donated and if they get positive PR for it then even better. To expect them not to seek the PR "reward" just proves you do not understand the concept of a profit-seeking company...
Ditto that!!!! Plus what NNO says about Enzos should be the Final WORD........ so any idea what the color will be, and thing special to distinguish it from the rest, i.e. plaque, insignia, etc....where the sale going down....?????
Yea, they can surely do that. And whats going to happen? We will all see another post by you saying that "Ferrari is trying to get more publicity for their new F430... This is commercial. The charity is a mere side-effect... blah blah blah" so whats the difference? Maybe you are the one thats A LITTLE TOO NAIVE to understand that this great gesture by Ferrari means a little more than PRODUCTION NUMBER.
