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40DCNF Source?

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  1. tomoshea

    tomoshea Formula Junior

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    Anyone got a source or a spare weber lying around,just need one, not a full set?

    Thx

    Tom
     
  2. duck.co.za

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    If you don't come right I have a full set . If you find a single carb just be sure to check the progression holes are matching .
     
  3. johnvwatts

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    #3 johnvwatts, Jul 9, 2011
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    What has gone wrong it? I ask as I recently had a problem with one also. An internal fault meant it leaked fuel down the butterflies when it got hot. Did't do whilst cold.
     
  4. Sledge4.2

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    I can get you one, off an early Gt4' might not have all the bits and pieces, leaky lead plugs and throttle bearings......
     
  5. tomoshea

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    Geno I will PM you.
     
  6. tomoshea

    tomoshea Formula Junior

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    John, short version of a long story. Had engine rebuilt in UK about 2 years ago. including work on a weeping carb.

    The engine hasn't been right since. Intermittant knock/ shudder at idle. tracked down to 5/6 cylinder.

    Cannot get cylinder 6 idle air flow to match all other 7 cylinders (even using air correctors)

    Suspect butterly issue causing the problem/ a bit of crud in the idel circuit.

    Using a colortune plug you get a blinding white flash in cylinder 6 coinciding with the shudder - i.e carb going lean at idle (suspect associated with an attempt at resolving a leak on the plug in the centre front of the carb). Not an issue off idle/ above 2500/3000 rpm. Cannot find the reason, suspect there is crud in the idle circuit that I cannot get out causing fuel starvation intermitently.

    Hence why the question, I want to swap it out.

    Great compression in all 8 cylinders north of 215- 220 PSI (10.5 compression pistons).


    cylinder 6 interestingly gives 230 PSI....... on a compression test
     
  7. 8valve

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  9. Sledge4.2

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    Plus it's damn expensive
     
  10. 8valve

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    Ok thanks! Did not know that there are different DCNF 40 setups out there!
     
  11. bill308

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    Tom,

    You can match up Webers by their series suffix (40 DCNF-45, 46, 47, 48). Side to side they differ by mixture screw orientation and back to front by interchangeable linkage. What series are your carbs?

    Bill
     
  12. robertgarven

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    Have you thought about sending it to an authorized service center like Pierce manifold, there must be one in the UK also??

    I have taken my carbs all apart, and several experts have told me there is just about nothing that cannot be fixed???

    Rob
     
  13. CliffBeer

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    #13 CliffBeer, Jul 12, 2011
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    Tom, you need a matching DCNF to do this right. In other words, while you can probably find a DCNF that is dimensionally the same.....and you can match up the jet settings...but you need a DCNF with matched progression holes in the throats. The size and orientation of the progression holes has a large effect upon the AFR and overall tune.

    It's a common mistake to install a non-matching DCNF when one goes bad....it's a recipe for frustration as with different progression holes that carb will flow different amounts of fuel throughout the rpm spectrum than your other three. It'll run, just not well.....even if you match all the jetting and other variables.

    Nothing worse than buying a carb'd 308 and finding the carbs are all mismatched....

    Good luck and persist!
     
  14. tomoshea

    tomoshea Formula Junior

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    Thanks guys,

    I will pull a carb next weekend to get the full version number and post to see what is laying about.....
     
  15. Sledge4.2

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    I had a similar situation to Tom, where i needed a temporary carb to trouble shoot what I thought was a screwed up carb. So i installed an early carb off a GT4 with different progression holes than the other 3 US late model carbs. Thing ran like a champ with the non-matching carb. I would up trading carbs with someone on FChat to get 4 matching carbs.
     
  16. robertgarven

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    #16 robertgarven, Jul 12, 2011
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  17. tomoshea

    tomoshea Formula Junior

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    Interesting Robert...... nayone got aspec on a 79 Euro 40 Carb?
     
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  19. tomoshea

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    Thx Paul,

    Will do
     

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