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  1. miurasv

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    #26 miurasv, Aug 21, 2017
    Thanks.
     
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    #27 Bob Zambelli, Aug 21, 2017
    I was visiting Mr Pappalardo in the mid-70s and this car was in his garage, just arrived as I recall. He lived in Batavia, NY at the time.
    Being ever the gentleman, he showed me around it, telling a bit about it's history - sorry, I don't recall all of it.
    But, here's my question: Was it refinished in red after he purchased it? When I was running tech inspection at Watkins in the 80s, I'm pretty sure he showed up in either this car or one similar but finished in red.
    As busy as I was - I had to inspect every car before it went on the track - I never got a chance to chat with him.

    So, can anyone help and revise my memories?

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    #28 miurasv, Aug 21, 2017
    Mr Pappalardo did paint it red but reverted it back to original yellow later in his ownership.
     
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    #29 merstheman, Aug 21, 2017
    Did it race with blue wheels when campaigned by Ecurie Francorchamps?
     
  5. miurasv

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    #30 miurasv, Aug 21, 2017
    Yes.
     
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    #31 merstheman, Aug 21, 2017
    Cool, didn't know that.
     
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    #33 miurasv, Aug 21, 2017
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    ... I believe these were full 9.5" x 15" Front and 12.5" x 15" Rear P4 wheels not just P4 "style" tipo 604 wheels in P3 size 5.5" x 15" Front and 7" x 15" Rear that the other 412P cars are said to have worn.
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    #34 wbaeumer, Aug 21, 2017
    The lines of this car are near to perfection!!!

    Ciao!
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    #36 of2worlds, Aug 21, 2017
    Were the blue wheels for rain and gold wheels for running in the dry?
     
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    #37 merstheman, Aug 21, 2017
    It really looks so much better to my eyes with the racing roundels & numbers... They complete the car... Thanks for the period pics! BTW the headlights look darker in the Paris 100KM pics. I also prefer them that way although it may only be an optical illusion..
     
  13. miurasv

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    #38 miurasv, Aug 21, 2017
    I'm not certain about this but because it rained in the race the narrower blue P3 5.5" x 15" Front and 7" x 15" Rear wheels were used instead of the much wider gold P4 wheels.
     
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    #39 amenasce, Aug 21, 2017
    my god. That is pure perfection.
     
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    #40 of2worlds, Aug 21, 2017
    Thank you for those details miurasv!
    When photographed much earlier in Los Angeles the car had darker blue wheels.
    Maybe the different colors were so the wheels didn't get mixed up in the heat of battle...
     
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    #41 miurasv, Aug 21, 2017
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    0854 had a spare P3 wheel in blue at Spa while wearing gold P4 style wheels. Also used the P3 wheels at Spa. See last pic.

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    No, the wheels were blue because one of the other competitors was always
    Pinching the wheels from Swaters
     
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    #44 of2worlds, Aug 21, 2017
    Thank you very much for sharing these details!
     
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    #49 nico308, Aug 22, 2017
    I remember Swaters saw the car back for the first time in yellow in 1997 for the 50th anniversary of Ferrari in Italy and it's there that he told that he painted the wheels blue so he could recognize them if his wheels were stolen.
     
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