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430 Scuderia manual conversion thoughts

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  1. ponyprancing

    ponyprancing Rookie

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    Recently a Porsche 991 GT3 RS owner converted his car from PDK to manual using transmission from 991R.
    Costs were said to be around 50K in $.

    Has anyone thought of doing this to their 430 scud?
    I presume the costs would be a lot higher, and an F430 transmission would be needed.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. MD355

    MD355 Formula Junior

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    The 430 Scud is already now a limited production classic... Why would you want to ruin it ?

    The only situation in which this could work, is if the 430 Scud is a crashed/salvaged car with no collector value, so go ahead and covert it... I don't think it will be much different from 360 F1 to manual conversion... It has been done already and documented I believe..
     
  3. Flea7

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    I'm not buying it......troll question.....good try.
     
  4. vrsurgeon

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    Do it. The F1 transmission is a crappy yesterdays best technology compared to the DCT. There are 41 Scuderia on cars.com right now that you can buy. Limited production model my toosh.

    If you don't do a manual then do a DCT conversion.
     
  5. Andrie

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    I find this statement ironic. What made the manual transmission, then?
     
  6. Flea7

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    honestly,.....I would rather have the 60ms single clutch than a DCT.
     
  7. Rosso328

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    Just curious. Would an IP check reveal this One Post Wonder to be the same one that's looking for advice about putting lambo doors on his F40?
     
  8. Dave rocks

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    This is like meeting a beautiful girl and trying to change her into something she is not - enjoy the car for the work of art it is, as-is :)
     
  9. Thrasher

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    Scud was not a limited run: they built them as the orders would come in and the production line allow...same for Strad and Speciale. There wasn't a number set in stone from its conception.

    To the OP, go for it if it floats your boat. There is a blue Strad that was converted to manual and it looks sublime (and I don't think the owner used a crashed Strad to do so)
     
  10. vrsurgeon

    vrsurgeon F1 World Champ
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    The ability to never be stranded at a stoplight with a red light blinking and a car refusing to go into gear. ;)

    41 Scuds on cars.com. It's apparently not supply.. but demand.
     
  11. tazandjan

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    Curt- Has never happened to me in 9+ years, but then mine is well maintained.
     
  12. Mikael-F360

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    I think OP is a troll and this conversation is useless. 50k for a conversion? Ridiculous claim.
     
  13. MaranelloDave

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    I don't know if this is real or not, but the superfast 2 transmission is the best part of the scud. Defines the car more than any other single component and is a lot of fun when you're going fast. If you want a stick, buy a manual F430.

    Also, the scud transmission has been 100% reliable in my experience.
     
  14. Andrie

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    It never happened to me, but I do believe that happens from time to time. Just like failing synchro on 3 pedals cars.
     
  15. willfinch36

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    School holidays...
     
  16. NürScud

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  17. DGod

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    Definitely... :)
     
  18. koop

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    There's an endless selection of manual and DCT cars to choose from across various marques. The only other car that shifts like the scud is the 650k 599 GTO.
     
  19. Gran Drewismo

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    Done on a Challenge Stradale, so why not a Scuderia?
     
  20. mwstewart

    mwstewart F1 Rookie

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    I don't think it's such a strange idea. Personal preference.
     
  21. MaranelloDave

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    The CS doesn't shift like the scud. Very different transmissions.
     
  22. koop

    koop Formula Junior

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    the CS gearbox is a weakness, not a strength
     
  23. Thrasher

    Thrasher Formula Junior

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    disagree - it's an older car...everything will be "less" than on a Scud.

    the gearbox on the CS is part of what makes it so "raw" and addictive to drive, the kicks in the back are actually a pleasure when you take her around a track or on fast roads.

    you are right: the CS doesn't drive like in a video game...you must adapt your driving skills to it to get the best of it (same can be said or is said from many other older cars)
     
  24. 24000rpm

    24000rpm F1 Rookie

    Interesting. I guess I would save myself from being a troll by asking "why can't we fit a SF2 onto a CS?"

    its doable, but a lot more involved because of electornics and software flashes.

    haha, sorry, flame-suit on
     
  25. 24000rpm

    24000rpm F1 Rookie

    another troll thought, but this time its serious and I've been dreaming it for a while and somebody has confirmed that its doable: fit a hewland sequential to the 360, just like the 360 GT
     

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