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430 Test Pipes - One better than the other?

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  1. F430addict

    F430addict F1 Rookie

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    Guys,

    Is there such a thing as a best test pipe for the 430 coupe? I've been surfing around sites and can't seem to differentiate between what all the brands are offering. Tubi, Capristo, Supersprint, Novitec, Fabspeed, Agency Power etc. Is there one test pipe that stands above all in terms of build quality, sound enhancement and performance gains?

    Supersprint seems to offer a straight pipe with no cats. Not sure how that'll prevent the CEL from coming on. Cheap though.

    Capristo offers a flexi cat which is still basically straight through so not sure whats the point of even having one at all. Perhaps it is to reduce the flex tension stress on the stock headers.

    Fabspeed has two variants. One is a cat bypass so I believe this is fundamentally a straight through, ala Supersprint. The other is a sport racen high performance cat which is a high flow cat but not straight through? Hmmm...I'm confused. Price difference of almost 1.5 grand.

    Don't wish to talk about Novitec coz I simply can't afford it and somewhat I suspect they are basically Tubis underneath.

    Ok, so what I am after is the highest flow, non CEL activating test pipe. Please tell me there's such a thing. It's gonna be fitted to the factory headers and capristo twin sound with remote controlled vacumm valve.

    Thanks
     
  2. Markjayw

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    There is no such thing as a test pipe that will avoid the CEL without getting your ECU reprogrammed. You would have to go with a sport cat. There are options in the amount of cell sport cat. Some are 200, some are 180 and I have heard Fabspeed and others make a 100 cell. The lower the cell the higher the flow I guess. You need to be carefull though because going with a complete aftermarket hearder and straight pipe system will be extremely loud. I have a 1994 RX-7 Twin Turbo with no cats, put on both test pipes and it sounded like a Grand Prix Moto GP bike. I quickly got a noise complaint ticket and had to add an additional muffler to quiet it down. If you want a little more hp, I would go with a sport cat, Fabspeed would be a good choice, then you won't have to do any reprogramming, get a little more sound, but no CEL.
     
  3. F430addict

    F430addict F1 Rookie

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    Thanks for the tip. I intend to leave e headers stock but put in test pipes to give the twin sound more kick. Sports cats make lots a sense though. I'm not sure how much sound I'd be losing between test pipes and a 100 cell sports cat though but I guess not getting the CEL would be a big bonus.
     
  4. SSR

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    I have capristo,ceramic coated and remap ECU NP,s
     
  5. F430addict

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    Ssr, is that the test pipe or sports cat?
     
  6. SSR

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    Test pipes.
     
  7. Markjayw

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    The other thing you will need to understand about test pipes is that you will now get a ton of black residue on your exhaust tips, very much a pain to clean each wash. You will actually get some on your lower bumper with time and will need to be buffed out. My philosophy for the most part after tweaking the RX-7 so much and going through 2 engines is when I feel I must have more hp, buy a car with more stock hp.
     
  8. F430addict

    F430addict F1 Rookie

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    You must have misunderstood my intentions, never for performance, it's more for the soundtrack. But good tip on the black residue issue. I'll have to think hard about that now.
     
  9. rberg32

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    I have test pipes and zero residue.


     
  10. F430addict

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    That's what got me thinking last night since my previous M6 was running a full race exhaust setup with race headers, no cats and basically no mufflers, no residue issue at all. Looks like Im going to get supersprint test pipes. Black residue may be the result of poor tuning hence engine runs rich.
     
  11. brian.s

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    the best?

    the least traceable in this day and age.
     
  12. SSR

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    +1
     
  13. raywong

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    Sport cats without heat shield stay glowing red for a few minutes after hard drive, not sure how that affects engine bay temperature, or damage to plastic and rubber parts.
     
  14. F430addict

    F430addict F1 Rookie

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    So perhaps that's why test pipes are better?
     
  15. SSR

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    my TP where ceramic coated at Jet Hot .
     
  16. Ingpr

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    My headers where jet coated and I wrap my test pipes to protect my carbon fiber air box.
     
  17. F430addict

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    Is it absolutely necessary to wrap the test pipes? Wouldn't it be less hot now without the cats?
     
  18. VividRacing

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    I would just have everything coated, or check out the new capristo heat shields.
     
  19. Ingpr

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    Very nice!
     
  20. F430addict

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  21. F430addict

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    So my other question would be, ignoring the cel and the finish of the pipes ( ie stainless versus polished ) do test pipes offer different performance or sound levels? I'm comparing between Fabspeed, Supersprint and Capristo. Prices for Fabspeed and Supersprint are pretty close. Capristo is a tad dearer.
     
  22. F40org

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  23. F430addict

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    Damn...flames? Not sure what's coming out of my pipes now but it sure is loud.
     
  24. F40org

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    Tony said, they changed the whole exhaust system of the normal 430 to the Capristo-SCUD-version and so they got this good issue. Only crux -> you have to change also the rear parts to SCUD-version.
     
  25. F430addict

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    Good stuff. I've Fabspeed headers and test pipes now, and capristo twin sound. No intention of going full scud rear ugh my grille and bumper are already on order, so is the scud fronts.

    Blue flames are nice...hopefully it doesn't melt the bumper away.
     

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