this i found over in the 'Modern' Section of fchat, but since a lot of people do not wander over there, this is a MUST SEE for the F430: http://redirect.streaming.szm.de/redirect/redirect.php?type=vod&codec=wm&stream=K1/auto/aa231004/ferrari_f430_320.wmv it's in german, but the video quality is superb. Originally I thought I liked the 430 front nose, but I actually hate it now after watching the video. I think the 360 front nose is more aggressive looking. AND, I still dislike the rear. the video didnt make me change my opinion on that issue. However, the PLUS to the F430 after watching the video is that the stock 430 exhaust sounds 100000x better than the whimpering stock 360 exhaust i wonder how it would sound with a TUBI and straight pipes and air intake RAM!