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  1. ferrari_456

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    #1 ferrari_456, Apr 29, 2011
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    hi everyone, i need some help, would anybody be able to give me the " "Borsch" part number" for the following parts. .................diagram attached, thanks

    part number 46, rear lamda feeder

    part number 1 (both Left and right Front lamda feeder, they have different part numbers if I am correct)
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  2. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #2 tazandjan, Apr 29, 2011
    Here are Ferrari part numbers but no clue on the Bosch part numbers. You might check with Dave Helms at Scuderia Rampante. He is an authorized Bosch dealer and may know. Those sensors are common to the Motronic 5.2 cars (355, 456/M, 550) so he may be able to help you. Not sure whether the connectors would be Ferrari specific, though. Many manufacturers have agreements not to sell Ferrari specific parts to the general public.

    http://www.ricambiamerica.com/parts_catalogs.php?V=diag&I=893

    http://www.****************.com/

    Taz
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  3. KeithS

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    #3 KeithS, May 2, 2011
    The rear oxygen sensors are Bosch part 13820. The fronts are 13819. These are direct replacements. Hope this helps.

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  4. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #4 tazandjan, May 2, 2011
    Keith- Great info. Where did you dig up those part numbers? Saving to my hard drive.

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  5. KeithS

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    #5 KeithS, May 4, 2011
    Check this thread for the complete story:
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=304753

    I got the part numbers from the drop down selection tools at oxygensensorsforless.com. These Bosch sensors are direct OEM replacements. Unscrew the old, screw in the new. Done. I compared the numbers on the old sensors and they match the replacements.

    But there is more. Today I checked oxygensensorsforless.com and F cars newer than 1997 and all 456, 550, 575 have been removed from the selection tools. I suspect this is enforcement of the polices many manufacturers have agreements not to sell Ferrari specific parts to the general public.

    I love my car. It is my third Ferrari. But I am offended by the Ferrari premium and their short sighted view of the market place and owner satisifaction. $400 for a standard part that can be purchased without a Ferrari box for $100 is simply price gouging and abusing the customer.

    Keith
     
  6. tazandjan

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    #6 tazandjan, May 4, 2011
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    Keith- Thanks. Looks like I lost track of that thread before you posted your results, or I would have checked out the Ferraris and saved the results. I note the 575/612/599 sensors are not as expensive as the earlier sensors, but replacing all of them is still over $600.

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  7. ferraridriver

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    #7 ferraridriver, May 4, 2011
    Amazon has them for $75-78. even has free shipping with "Prime"
     

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