It still didn't come up. I wonder if it's just that the part is too new. Maybe Scudariacarparts will have them in a few months
All that will happen is with the lower setting for warning they will catch it in advance b fore a failure However if it goes if they will check the seal and you will be paying for a whole new setup
The new cap does absolutely nothing BS scapegoat The only fix is replacing faulty units but that’s too dear to do all the cars So the next b st thing is to reset the warning to a lower level so as to catch the faulty units
The brakes in my car suck I stopped driving it a long time ago. I will have there bs cap replacement done ...and I'll bet they still suck. Ilko had it right .....I would like to remove master cylinder and booster and cut booster in half and find fluid. I have porsche turbo S and Lambo Huracan and none of this crap. I can't understand a cap preventing the kind of pressure to push past master cylinder to booster and not blowing cap off.
Actually they always felt a little hard, now they feel great. I really tried to pay Tate when I was driving there so I could compare it.
Wow - the 458 market has apparently not woken up to the apparent opinion that the brakes all suck and Ferrari is a lying, terrible company putting it's owners in dire, life-threatening risk every time they drive their cars. I would suggest selling your 458s at significantly below market value ASAP!!! And getting a car with good brakes from a company you can trust! Please PM me with your significantly below market 458 offerings - I am willing to take the risk.
I bet the design of the cap is very simple in the operation of it. The diaphragm part looks like a similar design to the rectangular master cylinder lid gaskets used on the 80 s and 90s American cars. Post 397 shows a vertical slit on the threads of the new cap. To be clear I am a skeptic of this being a fix. Perhaps a video topic for the engineering explained YouTube guy. “What was Bosch trying to achieve”
I’ve had my 2015 458 Italia for about 2 1/4 years and I have not had any problems with braking… Maybe the later built models benefited from updates to the system? For me thus far, the brakes have worked without any problems. No squeaks, no pedal issues. I should note that I do not track my 458 and the previous owner did not track it either. That may be a mitigating factor, who knows? Either way, I’m scheduled for the brake recall update tomorrow. I put 3-4,000 miles per year on it and use it regularly, I’m retired, but it still gets used several times a week in mixed use driving. It has received every annual service, plus two additional inspections at the dealer for FCA events. Cheers! “I see a line of Supercars and they’re all painted red… Visions of Prancing Horses dance in my head. I hear the screaming thunder of the four-point-five… A 9,000 redline makes you feel alive.”
There will be somewhere on the cap where the pressure relief valve can vent the build up of pressure in the master cylinder reservoir to atmosphere. If you look at post 397 you can see a vertical slot in the thread of the cap this may be where the pressure can vent through.
I share the skeptical concerns of others. Ferrari could not have chosen a cheaper braking component to blame. But let's say it is the cap. How is "pressure" going to be released without fluid also being released. Coolant and PS caps have overflow tubes. Where is that brake fluid going to go?
Pushed to Monday the 28th due to Colorado weather - I am sure someone will beat me to it but if not will post a pic of "the sticker" - Cheers
That’s the number we use, whats likely it’s just so new, its not made it into the marketplace. My opinion only, they’re probably distributing them only to the dealers for now in order to get the recall completed before making them available on the open market. Steve
Assuming that’s what the new cap does (gets rid of excess pressure) I think what’s happening is the rubber diaphragm gets pressed outwards on the brake fluid side and the other side of the diaphragm is at atmospheric pressure. In this way you can keep the brake resevoir at atmospheric pressure and prevent the brake fluid from ever contacting outside air (which would be bad as it would start absorbing a lot of moisture). So no fluid itself would ever be “vented”
Which would be logical since it is Ferrari's legal responsibility to execute and address the Ferrari recall via Ferrari authorized dealerships employing Ferrari certified technicians installing Ferrari-provided parts sent from the Ferrari factory or authorized Ferrari supplier for the Ferrari authorized dealers to provide a Ferrari-approved/provided sticker to be placed in the owners manuals at which time Ferrari updates the Ferrari site as to the Ferrari recall issued by the Ferrari factory having been completed per Ferrari instructions by a Ferrari technician employed by a Ferrari dealership.
Let's be clear. The failure is not at the cap, it is the brake master cylinder seal that leaks fluid inside the booster causing the brake failure. I've heard an explanation that as hot brake fluid expands pressure could build inside the reservoir. If there is no release mechanism, over time that pressure compromises the master cylinder piston seal. That's why they've come up with a cap that has a membrane to release that pressure. It is a plausible explanation. But without testing the master cylinder and confirming the piston seals are still good this solution seems like stuffing paper in the hole of a leaking boat hoping it keeps the water out... A better solution would have been if Bosch made a better master cylinder.
I agree w/ above, that it's not at the cap, it's to alleviate pressure on the master and update software for earlier warning. Now if you try to put it in perspective, what would the cost have been, for Bosch to create a new or modify the master cylinder itself and distribute to Ferrari? Then have Ferrari install them in thousands of cars vs the risk of a band aid cap / software solution, w/ subsequent multiple failures, deaths, injuries, etc., w/ a further subsequent class action lawsuit, in the hundreds of millions or sky's the limit dollars??? Is Bosch and Ferrari that "penny wise and dollar foolish"? My money is on that they are not and I am sure their teams of lawyers, advised them accordingly...
My 2015 458 Italia had its brake recall service completed today and it’s seventh annual maintenance service. No cost on either service to me. The folks at Boardwalk Ferrari are simply awesome![emoji2] Cheers!
