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458 as a Daily Driver

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by andycav, Dec 25, 2018.

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  1. andycav

    andycav Karting

    Mar 27, 2015
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    New York
    Hello All,
    I currently own a 2017 NSX and I am thinking of trading it for a 458. This alone doesn't sound like anything out of the ordinary, but I use the NSX as a DD (10k/yr) and I envision doing the same with the 458. While I'm sure this isn't the most practical thing to do, I am a single guy and what better time to do something purely for enjoyment. However, I do have a few questions...

    1. While I am not necessarily concerned about practicality (storage space, driving in snow, and the like), I am concerned about reliability as this will be the car that gets me to the office each and every day (35mi round trip). Is reliability a concern? Does getting from point A to point B become a question mark?
    2. Along with reliability, is the ongoing maintenance something I should be concerned with? I have read these cars are bullet proof, but I have only seen a few mentions about higher mileage cars.
    3. Are there any years that are preferred or that should be avoided?

    Thank you in advance for your thoughts and opinions.

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  2. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ
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    458 is as comfortable to drive daily as any other car bar a Mercedes S or Bentley..... very easy on your back and legs unless you plan to be very spirited for longer periods, where the ride will eventually get you.

    I’d go for 2012 onwards personally, as those cars are well sorted, and you will have some of the maintenance plan still included, but to be honest, nothing really goes wrong. As long as you take care of it, and have regular service checkups based on mileage, I think it’s a fantastic option. The only downside is obviously that the higher mileage will create a lot of depreciation compared to the usual 458 lightly driven examples, but hey, if you can afford it, do it I say! You’ll never arrive in work with a bigger smile on your face than after a drive in it
     
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  3. IPO1

    IPO1 F1 Rookie

    Dec 23, 2015
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    This is the first time this question has been asked...oh wait there are about 500 threads with the exact question.

    Search is always a good thing.

    Yes it can be a daily.
     
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  4. babwine

    babwine Karting

    Nov 6, 2016
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    I use my 458 as a DD and love it. No problems. I had same concerns when I bought mine and found scores of owners who drove multi thousands of miles with no issues. Forget about depreciation and enjoy. Go with 2013 or later


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  5. TheDiffuser

    TheDiffuser Formula Junior

    Nov 11, 2017
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    OP don't worry about previous threads on the topic, post away and maybe you can get some more up to date feedback
    I agree that the 458 is fine as a DD. My service costs were apx $600 USD per year, certainly not expensive.
    I went for a 2013 to make sure any bugs were sorted from the earlier cars, however if any issues on earlier models have been sorted they'd be fine to purchase.
    I put several thousand in mileage on mine in the first year and loved every minute of it.
    You'll be the happiest man in town having a 458 as a DD!!


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  6. FerrariFab

    FerrariFab Karting

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    I typically buy my cars pre owned with higher mileage for this reason specifically. I dont like to drive cars with guilt of large depreciation from adding miles and not being able to enjoy it. That being said mine is high mileage and i drive it every day. Just keep up on the maintenance and you should be fine, quite comfortable in comparision to the lamborghinis i have drove in the past.
     
  7. 3POINT8

    3POINT8 F1 Rookie
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    +1 on a 458 as a DD
     
  8. MalibuGuy

    MalibuGuy F1 Veteran

    Sep 18, 2007
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    I looked at the 2017 NSX.
    Get the 458 —strongly suggest the spider

    Even the NSX salesman was smitten with my 458 spider. I showed him the interior and then the frunk space

    When I operated the top, the whole place came out to watch.

    Reliable? Practical?

    My spider has over 100,000 miles. Still enjoy driving my beater from maranello!
     
  9. daflk

    daflk Formula Junior

    Jan 27, 2013
    257
    Hong Kong
    It’s okay as a daily driver. I’ve put almost 40k kilometers on my 2012 458 spider since buying it two years ago and although the car is mechanically sound, here are the parts I’ve had replaced:

    - RH rear speed sensor in 2017
    -LH rear speed sensor in 2018 (lasted one year more)
    -o2 sensors
    -ABS sensors

    One big issue with this car due to heavy electronics are that sensors are timed life. Your sensors will die, thankfully most sensors are cheap (in the Ferrari scale of course) and accessible and therefore cheap and quick to replace (day job).

    However if you’re unlucky, sensors in your gearbox may also die, which requires reassembly or replacement depending on where in the double clutch gearbox the sensor resides. Most common are the gearbox speed and e diff differential pressure sensors.

    My spider is due for a replacement e diff sensor, which requires disassembly of the differential from the Getrag DSG and replacing and reassembling. Quoted 13k part and labour at dealer and 7.7k at independent and requires one to two weeks of labor. Note that few independents are capable of this work as it requires access to Getrag gearbox specific workshop manuals.

    So relatively reliable for an exotic but due to nature of sensors dying over time keep that in mind if it’s your only car and you have a long commute.



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  10. saraojo

    saraojo Formula 3

    Mar 9, 2015
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    Has anyone else here aside from daflk above had getrag issues? Mine has been reliable at 12 to 13k miles. I just wanted to know of any thing else to watch out for
     
  11. Marcus01

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    Mine gives me a headache if I drive it for more than an hour; and wrecks my back and shoulders and neck.

    I bought it as a DD but it's just too much...too much everything; noise, attention, everything. Plus, I can't really hear anyone on the phone over the engine which makes it hard to use as a day to day tool whilst running a business.

    Things to think about.
     
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  12. babwine

    babwine Karting

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    Absolutely no issue on phone. Bluetooth works fine . even with top down I can carry on a conversation... just put windows up. Also, I am 73 and other than ass in first, have no issues with driving comfort.


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  13. 3POINT8

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    would love to see a pic of that mileage! didn't know the counter went up that high
     
  14. TheDiffuser

    TheDiffuser Formula Junior

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    Brilliant. Keep rocking it, stories like yours are what keeps me in the game. DD wise, I just worry about what my sports injuries will prevent me driving when I hit my 70's!


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  15. cavsct94

    cavsct94 Karting

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    Perhaps I'm not quite as strident, but I agree with this for the most part. I'm investigating the F12 and the new Continental GT and will keep my 458 for the shorter drives.
     
  16. andycav

    andycav Karting

    Mar 27, 2015
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    New York
    Thanks for all of your great thoughts!
    I hadn't been considering a spider, but I will give it a look.
    I'll make sure to update the post when a decision is finally made,
    Thanks again for the insights.

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  17. FerrariFab

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    What year 458 do you have? customer brought by his 13 458 and the shifting is quite faster than my 2011.
     
  18. Zalfor

    Zalfor Karting

    Mar 31, 2013
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    the transmission on the 458 isn't that good for DD in a city. if you're driving it on the highway its probably ok.
     
  19. wthensler

    wthensler F1 Rookie
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    What Zalfor said. The NSX is a bit more refined, quieter, more Japanese-like in its characteristics. Shifting is smoother, the 458 is a bit rougher by comparison, especially in a city. The NSX is AWD, don’t know if that is important to you. Also, it’s a heavier car.
     
  20. boogie

    boogie Karting

    Mar 4, 2016
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    Remember that it rains into the engine compartment.

    Can't imagine my 458 being my only way to get to work and having to park it in questionable places.

    Driving it for me is an event, even though I'm not worried about miles or resale. Just me.
     
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  21. LVP488

    LVP488 F1 Rookie

    Jan 21, 2017
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    A DCT failure of some kind seems to be the only serious problem one could encounter with the 458.
    Another thread has suggested going for a Ferrari warranty does not make sense financially, however it would be a good protection (at about $4.5K/year) if this risk is considered needing a mitigation.
    Regarding the gearbox for city use, I think it will only be a discomfort if trying to use it in auto - using the paddles (with no possibility of stalling since the clutch remains automated) should be OK.
     
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  22. andycav

    andycav Karting

    Mar 27, 2015
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    New York
    Thanks for the comment on the transmission. While I will not be driving in the city on a daily basis (infrequent), I am in regular stop and go traffic as part of my daily commute.

    The AWD component is nice on the NSX as I use Pirelli Sottozeros on the car in winter and drive in all weather conditions (rather impressive in snow), but I don't plan on doing this driving with the 458 so the RWD aspect should be fine. Please let me know if you disagree.

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  23. andycav

    andycav Karting

    Mar 27, 2015
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    I prefer not to use auto, so if paddle shifting makes stop and go traffic easier to handle, excellent!


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  24. Zalfor

    Zalfor Karting

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    honestly, i don't recommend 458 as a DD. but you'll probably buy it anyways because we all have this ferrari feeling
     
  25. italiafan

    italiafan F1 World Champ
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    I don't see why you couldn't daily drive it.
    I would recommend getting the newest/best car you can afford without stretching it.
    For daily use I'd go with a less loud, more refined color like Grigio Titanio or Silverstone (or similar).
    It would be nice if it had Bluetooth.
    Try out different seats, for me Daytona-style seats in my Spider are awesome.
     
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