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Discussion in 'Challenge/GT Cars/Track' started by spitfire691, Oct 7, 2010.

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  1. spitfire691

    spitfire691 Karting

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    #1 spitfire691, Oct 7, 2010
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  2. bcwawright

    bcwawright F1 Veteran

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    #2 bcwawright, Oct 7, 2010
    Great pics Hideki...many thanks for sharing.
     
  3. Ferraripilot

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    #3 Ferraripilot, Oct 7, 2010
    Looks like it has a ton of positive camber dialed in on the back wheels!
     
  4. Tifosi15

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    #4 Tifosi15, Oct 7, 2010
    Great stuff!
     
  5. FerrariMC

    FerrariMC Formula Junior

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    #5 FerrariMC, Oct 7, 2010
    Thank you so very much for the pics, the 458 Challenge car looks great!! What a rare glimpse into the unveiling, it's awesome! Just wanted to thank you for all of the pics, very detailed too! Take care. If you have anymore, please post them. Grazie mille! Ciao!

    Mark
     
  6. redcar1

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    #6 redcar1, Oct 7, 2010
    Thanks very much for posting!

    Air conditioning? Wow, I wonder if Grand-Am will still make USA cars run with no driver window?

    Did you notice the tire sizes?

    How was the transmission?

    Can you compare the car to a 430C?

    Thanks

    Mark
     
  7. morrischen

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    #7 morrischen, Oct 7, 2010
    458 Challenge Spec:

    4.499L V8 engine
    Maximum power: 570 CV@ 9,000 rpm
    Maximum torque: 540 Nm@6,000 rpm
    F1 dual clutch transmission 7 gears
    Dimensions: 4,527mm(L) x 1,937mm(W) x 1,163mm(H)
    Wheelbase: 2,650mm
    Front track:1,692mm
    Rear track: 1,616mm
    Dry Weight: 1,220 kg
    Weight distribution: 42% Front- 58% rear
    Electronic control: E-Diff3, F1-Trac, Three position manettio(wet, dry, TC off)
    Fuel tank capacity: 29.8 US gal
    Tryes: Front 255/650-19 x 9J Rear 305/690-19 x 11J
    Breaks:Front 398 x 38mm Rear 380 x 34mm
    Maximum speed: 310 km/h
    Maximum lateral acceleration: 1.6g
     
  8. omd78

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    #8 omd78, Oct 7, 2010
    Mille grazie!

    Gr. Martin
     
  9. morrischen

    morrischen Rookie

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    #9 morrischen, Oct 7, 2010
    Lap times vs 430 Challenge:


    Fiorano: 458Challenge---1'16.5 / 430Challenge--1'18.1
    Mugello: 458Challenge--1'54.7 / 430Challenge--1'57.5
    Monza: 458Challenge--1'50.9 / 430Challenge--1'53.5
     
  10. morrischen

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  14. fingolfin

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    #14 fingolfin, Oct 7, 2010
    Maybe I'm alone here, but I haven't liked the liveries they reveal challenge cars in lately. The 599 GTO paint job made it look like a Dale Earnhardt Jr. stock car, and this looks like something a kid whipped up in Gran Turismo.

    I love the car, and I think it will look excellent on track. I can't wait to see Risi campaign one, but I wish they would be revealed in a classic Ferrari Livery, or just without a racing paint job (that's how companies always unveil prototype racers).
     
  15. Ferraripilot

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    #15 Ferraripilot, Oct 7, 2010
    They coming out with a GT class of this car soon as well??
     
  16. cwwhk

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    #16 cwwhk, Oct 7, 2010
    Very nice pictures, thanks for sharing, but the cost of racing it in Asian Challenge series is prohibitively expensive. I was quoted 54 million Japanese Yen by Japan dealer for car plus entry and transport with consumables such as tires NOT included. This works out to be US$655K per season plus consumables and possible crash damage cost. Hong Kong dealer quoted something similar.

    For that kind of money it's not very good value for the kind of racing you get IMHO. GT3, GT2, or even LMS comes to mind. Has anybody else been quoted costs for Europe or North America Challenge series?
     
  17. johnhoughtaling

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    #17 johnhoughtaling, Oct 7, 2010
    That's abount the same for a US budget, no?
     
  18. jeromeb

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    #18 jeromeb, Oct 7, 2010
    John what are you doing?
    Any interest in in a 458CH? :)
     
  19. ross

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    #19 ross, Oct 7, 2010
    i rode in a normal 458 with the man that set that 1.57.5 time around mugello in a 430c...and he said that he was very close to that time in this street version....so these times are completely believable.
     
  20. Challenge64

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    #20 Challenge64, Oct 7, 2010
    WOWOW..how costs have gone up
     
  21. RP

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    #21 RP, Oct 7, 2010
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    No wonder costs are going up.

    In the photo posted, buttons/switches for an for AC and AC fan?? Talk about comfort under pressure.
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  22. Jaffster

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    #22 Jaffster, Oct 7, 2010
    Not surprised about the AC...in some series AC is being mandated. Very dangerous the temperatures some race car cockpits get up to. In reality it probably does not hold back this masterpiece motor much :)
     
  23. cwwhk

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    #23 cwwhk, Oct 8, 2010
    Very true. In Asia during summer cockpit temperature goes up to 130 to 140 F. You'll fry your brain trying to race without some sort of cooling.
     
  24. DM18

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    #24 DM18, Oct 20, 2010
    You need helmet cooling too when somebody tries to block you
     
  25. Enzo88

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    #25 Enzo88, Oct 20, 2010
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