Your comments, as are many others here, filled with assumptions. My point is...none here can make assertions based upon those assumptions. All we "know" from a poll like this is: 3:1 anonymous people on this subforum of a Ferrari enthusiast Chat site "prefers" the 458 to the 488. Nothing more...everything else said is an exercise in "psychology." We don't know how many are owners, we don't know the ratio of 458:488 owners who read and respond to this subforum on a regular basis. We don't know the reasons why one might select a preference for one car over the other (there are a combination of ~ 1/2 dozen obvious contenders (beauty, sound, performance, cost, driving sensation, availability...and others for sure). This is a Ferrari-enthusiast Chat site, this is the subforum for BOTH 458 and 488 enthusiasts to hang out, read, look at pictures, and if motivated vote in polls and post comments...and in that highly selected group of automotive enthusiasts in the World--the 458:488 preference ration is 3:1. Period. Both cars are fabulous, and I have a lot of time in both. The F8 will be fabulous.