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  1. 2006m5

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    Iam thinking to buy a 458 speciale...which year is the better year 14/15
    Livery yes or no?
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  3. MikeS

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    I owned a 2014 for 5 years, fair amount of track time. Car never missed a beat, period- zero issues. I believe 2015 car is identical. Livery is your choice. I think your biggest issue will be finding one- slim pickings. I regret trading it but am thrilled with my 812 and I added a Pista- miss that mid engine V8.
     
  4. RayJohns

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    I almost bought a Speciale, but opted for the 458 Italia instead. Unless you want a track focused car to drive on the street, I personally think the 458 Italia is maybe a more enjoyable car as a daily driver or for a weekend car. If you have a girlfriend and/or wife and want to enjoy going out to dinner, the Italia is just as fun as the Speciale on the street. For the track, that might be a different story.

    What's your main use going to be?

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  5. 2006m5

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    ray no track....street use.
     
  6. RayJohns

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    Personally I'd get an Italia.

    I mean, if you are 25 or 30 and have never driven a modified/lowered street car and just can't sleep until you have one, then sure a Speciale might be kinda cool.

    However, if you have already gone through that phase and appreciate things like heated seats and not having too harsh a ride on the street, then maybe test drive a 458 Italia. Also, the exhaust on the Italia can be turned up or down using the different modes; on the Speciale I believe it's just loud and louder (although I could be wrong). I will say, after putting in quite a few miles on my 458 Italia, I really loved having the ability to silence the exhaust when driving home through my neighborhood late at night, etc. Really great, well balanced car.

    Nothing against, the Speciale; they are amazing as well. Just slightly different. Make sure you know what you're getting yourself into and perhaps speak at length with people here who have owned and driven both. That's what I did when I originally was shopping for a Speciale. I emailed with a number of people who owned both and asked questions. After a few weeks of talking with people that owned both the Italia and the Speciale, it became clear that for a street driven car - where you are going to want to take your wife out to dinner on the weekends or maybe take a drive up the coast, etc. - the Italia is really what you want. It's plenty fast for the street and won't give you a headache.

    I think the opposite is probably true also: if you are going to track your car, then the Italia might leave you longing for the slightly firming ride, slightly larger brakes, etc.

    Do you have any previous experience with any other Ferraris?

    Ray
     
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  8. Foxmod

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    Buy a Speciale and enjoy, I did last August. I regetted selling my new one from 2015. Believe the hype, it is a specal car. The only car type I've repurchased, and intend to keep this one for a very long time.

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  9. RayJohns

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    The front of the Speciale is nicer than the Italia, I'll say that!

    Ray
     
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  10. 2006m5

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    Ray thank you for the info..i .appreciate all your thoughts.
     
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    man I thought I liked my 458 spider... then I saw your picture. :(

    It’s like his stronger brother!

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  13. DRPM

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    Owned an Italia for 3 years, sold it and bought a Speciale, great car but i missed the 458 Italia 9k rpm rev exhaust sound, I was expecting the Speciale to sound better but I was disappointed and sold it 2 years later, looking to buyback my Italia now.
    Btw, no track use, I drive a Porsche GT3 for that buzz on track...
     
  14. Jo Sta7

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    What bugged me about my 2 Italias is that, while the sound is there there’s no pull above 8k RPM or so. The Speciales pull harder to the limit.
     
  15. RayJohns

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    That sounds a little strange. My 458 Italia pulled hard through all the gears clear to redline and shifted nice and sharp. I don't ever recall feeling HP dip off before redline.

    Ray
     
  16. RayJohns

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    I was sort of surprised the first time I heard a Speciale also. It was louder, but the exhaust note of the Italia sounds better.

    I definitely regret selling my 458. The 488 was a big disappointment and I sold it as quickly as I could and turned down my F8 allocation. Ferrari has started going down a path with their cars that seems to have lost a lot of what has always made a Ferrari so special to own. I feel like the 458 and the 812 may be the high watermark for some time to come here, if things don't improve.

    Anyway, short answer: find yourself a 458 Italia, forget about the side winglets, and don't look back.

    Ray
     
  17. 2006m5

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    Ray are you driving 458 now?
    I recall you had one.
     
  18. RayJohns

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    I'm driving my 1990 Toyota pickup right now... contemplating building a 350-400 HP turbo motor for it :)

    No Ferraris at the moment. My goal down the road is either an 812 Superfast or ideally an F40 if I can swing it and find one to modify, etc. Right now I'm starting a new business and we want to build a new custom home some place, so the Ferrari is down the list a bit. Also, the 458 is a hard act to follow; I've actually given some thought to just buying another 458 Italia.

    Ray
     
  19. 2006m5

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    Gotcha good luck on your new business.
     
  20. RayJohns

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    Thanks!

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  21. spyderman

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    I’ve had the 438 spider which I thoroughly enjoyed and loved the style of. But the Speciale is as a whole different look and feel all together. I also have the Pista spider and 812 SF... the Speciale is truly a keeper. That’s a drivers car then never stops entertaining you no matter the speed you
     

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  22. 2006m5

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    nice car!
     
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  23. vforvictory

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    I just purchased a 458 SA, the ride is harder than the Italia and the 488 GTB, but the car is much more enjoyable on the track.


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