458 Spider, Porsche GT3, and Huracan Observations

Nice write up!

 

The racing exhaust option on the lambo is a must, its just insane how good it sounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ghyN_36OJw

 

Joe, what a wonderful and precise description of your impressions

I must notice that almost everyone is complaining about huge lack of visibility in Huracan (on press photos it doesn't look that visibility could be problematic). I assume that upcoming RWD Huracan could be wonderful, as you said, special event car.

GT3 depreciation will be very slow! It is easily one of the best cars Porsche made in recent period!

 

Thanks Joe you basically took the three cars I am contemplating and compared them for me, really appreciative. Hoping to add a 458spider end of next year, think it would be an awesome compliment to my FF.

 

IMO, one big problem about Porsche is that when you are driving the top model like GT3, you have many cousins : Carrera, S, 4S, Targa, Targa S, GTS, Turbo, Turbo S, SSSSS (I'm confused) that look exactly the same in and out. That just feels like 911 is not a super car yet but a sport car. And one thing that makes the price much cheaper is because it is sharing chassis and engine between so many models, just like Audi, Toyota, Honda, etc.

 

Day to day this an advantage not disadvantage where I live.

 

This is a great write up. I have driven all them and you totally put similar thoughts I had to paper. Good job!

 

I agree. It keeps prices more reasonable and the avg. guy on the street thinks that it is "just another Porsche". Getting too much attention gets old.

Great write up. Thank you.

 

Balanced and insightful write-up.

Daily drove a C2S 6-speed for 4 years, sterile and precise like a surgical instrument. Bullet proof reliability and maintenance costs half the price of the F-car.

Daily drove a 458 spider for past 1 year, still an event to drive every morning, interior is like an LV handbag and still has the intoxicating aroma, cab forward view is vital for my narrow parking situation at work and home, and handles like a go-kart at street legal speeds for my daily commute.

Autocrossed a Huracan, steering wheel and interior controls were all over the place and I couldn't see sh-t. I have read that glass engine cover remedies the rear view situation.

 

911s possess a 50 year heritage. A 911 from 1975, while greatly altered from the current models, is still recognized today as a 911. For many, the lineage and the history is a quality that is highly valued. To the trained car enthusiast, the GT 3 is easily distinguishable from a Turbo which is clearly differentiated from a C2. To the untrained, non car person, the F430 and the 360 are identical and the 599 looks exactly like the F12.

And personally, I could care less what the guy on the street thinks.

 

This!

 

We should once and for all state the following Ferrari truism when it comes to reviewing a Porsche with the following comments -" while it is a precise car, reliable and great as a DD, it appeals to reason and logic. It is well engineered in a very German way. All 911s look the same and I see them everywhere I go. The Ferrari on the other hand , is a car that stimulates the senses and gets the heart racing. It appeals to emotion and excitement. Driving it is an occasion, an experience every time I get into it. And everywhere I go, people notice me and want to take pictures of the car and if they could they would make love to it. Unfortunately as much as I love driving it, I want the experience to be special, so I only make sure I put less than 1500 miles on it per year. Otherwise it will depreciate more than $2.06 per mile. But after all, a Ferrari is a Ferrari. Need I say more. Hopefully they will not increase production because everyone will then buy one and I will just be another guy with a Ferrari. I will then need to buy a Pagani or Veyron to stand out from the masses.

 

While I am at it , more Ferrari reviews of other cars-

Mclaren - very clinical, competent but no emotion. Better than Porsche but similar. Like the difference between British cooking and Italian cuisine.

R8 - ok for a car from a commercial, large corporation. Fine as a DD but not much style or soul compared to our beloved Ferraris. Still not too bad if you don' t make a lot of money.

GTR-Japanese mass market. Like Porsche Turbo like a good appliance. Gets you from point A to point B but no one will notice you or think you are wealthy.

 

Coincid, you joined FChat less than 1 month ago and have posted frequently with a multitude of advice and opinions most of which appear to be directed negatively toward your version of a "typical" Ferrari owner. I have found the owners I have met either in person or through this site to be outstanding individuals and extremely helpful regardless of how any of them choose to enjoy their purchase or passion. Maybe I missed the information in one of your many posts, but which Ferraris do you own again? Just trying to understand your perspective.


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I don't understand this line, do you honestly think anyone cares?

Funny thing is around here you can park a lambo/ferrari and a GTR on a street and which will get all the attention? The GTR of course although it has dropped off a bit in recent years 2008 was crazy especially at fuel stops.

 

I am new to FChat as I have not owned a Ferrari in the past. I joined because I was offered a F430 and asked for some advice. The car is currently at the dealer for a PPI. Upon completion of a thorough inspection including estimate for all repair costs, if all checks out, I will be purchasing it. I have sufficient past experience driving the 360 and 430 both on the street and on the track. I also own a Porsche 997.1TT and TTS Cab. I have just testdriven the BMW i8 and placed an order since I believe it to be a stunning car, great value and performer offering technology that will be the forebearer of the future direction of the automobile.

My posts on this site are not intended to disparage any individuals. They are personal thoughts on why high performance cars should be purchased and why I have little patience for those who are elitists and snobs and buy cars like Ferraris as a statement of status or exhibition of financial wealth rather than because of the pure thrill and joy of driving and owning one. Obviously anyone is free to purchase anything for any motive they may have, but my love and respect for high performance cars causes my negative reaction for those who buy these cars for what I consider superficial reasons.

 

Thank you for listing your intentions, but what you may not have considered is that the members on this forum, those that read, follow or post on this site do so because they actually like cars. Particularly Ferraris. If they were the elitists snobs that you wish to address they probably would not be waisting time on here. Thus your audience may take offense to the constant bombardment. I have appreciated some of your posts when your topics have been about the actual vehicles in question and not their owners. Also, might I say Welcome to Fchat!

Todd


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Todd,

Thanks for your reply. I appreciate it. I will confine future posts to avoid any negative references to owners. My apologies if the impression was that I was on some sort of crusade. I and am certain most others on this site, love cars for the thrill they afford by driving and owning them and not for other reasons. Thanks for the welcome.

 

Actually, the reasons people buy cars is, and should be, theirs alone and whether it matches up with your reasons should have nothing to do with a forum or its reason for being. I, as an Fcar owner, bought my cars for some of the more "negative" reasons you have listed in other posts but continue to enjoy my cars and the pride that comes with ownership. Usually, more facts and less web-therapy goes a long way on this forum.

 

Good choice on the i8…Just took delivery of mine….You will not be disappointed…The car is terrific…Beautiful, well made, terrific daily driver and adequate performer. It is a little compromised as an out-and-out sports car with its narrow tyres and weird brake feel, but you won't care one bit. I drive it every day and wouldn't want anything else

 

+100

 

Great write up. Very informative..

 

Great write up by the OP.

Todd, thank you for your posts.

George. i8 question- have you gotten used to the ease of entry? I was considering an i8 as a daily sports car but I found the ease of entry/ egress to be somewhere around F40 territory. As such I passed for now, but I am awaiting the i8S and still wondering about the entry / egress.

 

Curious if you tested the Tesla vs the i8?