When all you care about is how something SOUNDS that's pretty sad. Go buy a recording or better yet just listen to them over and over on YouTube. ��
That is an absolutely perfect description of their comparative sounds (has to be comparative because in isolation, the Speciale still sounds amazingly good). The Speciale is the overall better car though, and it's not actually close in the final analysis. And it won't suffer from being "the next car that's going to be replaced". I listened to an old video of me chasing a friend's 458 in my then CS though Ireland. The CS sounds unbelievably good. It drives brilliantly well too. The Speciale surpasses it though. I've had some of the best drives of my life in that car.
Hi, If you are not buying the 360cs, I am keen on buying it off your Friend. Accident car is fine too , as long as the papers are in order .
I owned my CS for 10 years and for 9 years, 3 months it was the greatest car I had ever owned. Then I bought a 458 Speciale. I sold the CS despite many other CS owners telling me I would regret it. Nope. I had a nice time with the car but don't miss it at all.
I posted this video in the 360/430 section a while back. You speciale lovers might disagree with some of the comments from this CS owner https://youtu.be/a0HR4oWnjwk
The CS is a nice car to listen too but it is MUCH harder to live with than a Speciale. Not to mention its dog slow and shifts slower than molasses in February. I prefer the sharper edgier look of the Speciale to the soft look of the CS but hey, opinions are like..well.. you know.
that's why the sweet spot is the 430 Scuderia disclaimer: i owned a cs in parallel with a scud. sold the cs a few years back. i have driven a speciale on and off track, never felt like wanting one. for indo roads & traffic, the 458 would be the more comfortable/bearable car. but to be frank, with indo traffic, flooding, crappy roads, crappy fuel etc...i wouldn't get an exotic of any kind. im from jkt. most ppl who get an exotic there it's for what they call "pamer2an" ie to show off at the malls or park in front of the clubs. if that's your jam, all the power to you, and so to that end your audience wouldn't be able to tell a 458 from a CS. if it were me, i'd rather get a Mercedes 6 x 6 or a fully pimped out alphard.
If you are a man, then go with the 360CS ! 458 Italia is the big brother from the California - both are cars for girls. Thats funny
This is the dumbest statement I have ever seen, the 458 is for girls, whats the 488 for then, grandmas? And you don't even own a Ferrari, not sure how you can make a statement like that. lol
The only good thing about 360CS is the sound. A 458 with full modified exhaust will make the 360CS sounds like a pussi cat (I have driven behind a 360 CS, even stock F12 is louder on high rpm). And 360CS with full modified exhaust won't be as good sound as 458 too, because it lacks the screaming and less loudness. If it's not because of 488 sounds like performance suv, 360CS is still on bargain.
355 and newer isn't slow by any definition. The majority of those who make such a statement never track their car or simply put miles . Fact is this is apples oranges comparasion. CS is raw designed for track . 458 is Cadillac like in comparison. 458 has more electronic to make it fast on track . I truly don't see point of thread being that these cars are so different. Closer comparasion is with Scud.
There's a reason why this user got banned. Plus, this kind of intervention adds nothing to the community. Regarding the OP's dilemma, the 458 and the 360CS are two very different cars, with different philosophies from different eras. I would still go with a 458, as Ferrari REALLY upped their game since the late 1990s in all fields and one notices that rather easily behind the wheel of a 458 (I came from a 355, which I still own). You can't believe that both are Ferraris. That said, it doesn't mean a 360CS won't thrill you as much. It depends more on what you're looking to experience and what you enjoy behind the wheel than the cars themselves. Two different ways of having a mind-blowing Ferrari. I'd try the 458 first, and them see if the 360CS still cuts it. Kind regards, Nuno.
I have this problem today and it´s really hard to decide!! I´ve had a normal 360 and a 458 before and have been driving a 911 for three years now. I want to go back to Ferrari again and these two cars are the ones I´m choosing between!! It´s really hard!!!
There are funny comments in this thread - like Speciale supporters arguing against the superior sound of the CS, stressing how better a car the Speciale is. While I suspect the very same supporters would consider a 488 (a better car than the Speciale on all objective metrics) as crap because the Speciale sounds better... Personnally I don't care about sound (but with consistency) so I have no problem to acknowledge even a regular 458 is objectively better as a car than a CS - but these cars are getting older now, so new criterias may be considered: as a piece of history, a CS is more valuable than a regular 458; compared to a Speciale the gap is narrowed (because the Speciale is also, well, special to some extent) but the CS may still be more significant, as a more focussed exercice while later special series have gradually become more and more marketing tricks.
I had them all and have restocked the stable with 458 spider and a CS. Both sound brilliant, which is after all a major factor for us petrolheads! If forced to decide one only, it would be the CS.
This thread is a blast from the past. When you read your own comments back it's interesting to note if you still agree with yourself (in case you were wondering, yes, I still agree - I said that the CS sounds better than the Speciale, the Speciale drives better. I loved the Speciale in 2016, I still have it in 2020). What's really interesting though, is how many people bemoaned Ferrari becoming too digital and modern with the 458 and how the CS is so analogue. Nowadays, substitute 458 for CS and SF90/F8/Pista for 458. Round and round and round we go!!
