458 without navi

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Avia11, Jan 3, 2019.

  1. Avia11

    Avia11 Formula Junior
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    Jan 21, 2017
    San Diego, CA
    Hi guys... I am trying to decide between a 2014 458 spider and a 2015 458 coupe. The spider doesn't have navi/bluetooth because it wasn't standard equipment. It is 5k more for the spider. The spider also doesn't have the AFS. How important are these things?
  2. SmokinV10

    SmokinV10 Rookie

    Oct 19, 2017
    Does anyone actually use in-car navigation anymore? The only car with a navigation system worth a damn is Tesla but those cars are unbearable.

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  3. flash32

    flash32 Formula 3

    Aug 22, 2008
    Central NJ
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    The lights , nav and 5 k don't seem to make a decision

    The big question is do you want a coupe or a spider . Each has a different look and different experience ..

    Can you test drive or ride both .. we will know which you like and then go with your heart

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  4. iloveferrari

    iloveferrari Formula 3

    Dec 14, 2014
    get a spider, and add aftermarket bluetooth?
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  5. benny11_85308

    benny11_85308 Karting

    Dec 12, 2016
    I agree, there is something special about a spider to me. I had a 430 spider, went to a 458 coupe and then had to go back to 458 spider because I missed the drop top. they say your a spider guy or your not. drive both and see what moves you. I have Nav and have never used it once.

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  6. dustman

    dustman F1 Rookie

    Jun 12, 2007
    Best Navi is in Tesla. On my second S now. Absolutely bearable and best cars I’ve ever owned.
  7. speedy pete

    speedy pete Karting

    Nov 1, 2003
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    Pete B get the best of both worlds. Just can't see the motor on spider, but then again you can't see the sky above with the coupe....
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  8. 338Lapua

    338Lapua Formula Junior

    Sep 5, 2015
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    Spider all the way. I went from a 430 coupe and considered myself a coupe guy....then I bought the 458 Spider. All I can say is that the spider experience is like no other....
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  9. TheDiffuser

    TheDiffuser Formula Junior

    Nov 11, 2017
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    haha thats brilliant and so true.
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  10. PhilNotHill

    PhilNotHill Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jul 3, 2006
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    Spider. Two cars for the price of one. Can put the rear window down with the top up and hear the engine exhaust music.

    I have nav. Not user friendly. Never use it.
  11. 458-Italia

    458-Italia Formula 3

    Jan 10, 2014
    the spider will be much harder to sell without Navi/Bluetooth o_Oo_O
  12. cavsct94

    cavsct94 Karting

    Aug 26, 2013
    Indianapolis, IN
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    Navigation is next to useless on the 458, especially compared to what's on your phone. Also, I vote for Spider.
  13. TheMayor

    TheMayor Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Feb 11, 2008
    Vegas baby
    Greatest waste of money today is paying for NAV in any car. And the one in the 458 is useless.
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  14. wthensler

    wthensler Formula Junior
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    Apr 27, 2015
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    Besides, isn’t getting lost the basic idea when driving a Ferrari?
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  15. TheMayor

    TheMayor Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Vegas baby
    There's an old Jerry Seinfeld joke that applies here when you talk about car GPS vs Waze or Google Maps or Siri... It goes like this

    "So what's the deal with Chinese people still eating with chopsticks?????

    ---- they've seen the fork!"
  16. bball16

    bball16 Formula 3
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    Dec 2, 2011
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    I have Nav in my Spider and I never use it. The nav doesn't hold a candle to Waze and is such a pain to use that I don't even bother with it. Get yourself a good cradle for your phone and use that whenever you need nav.
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  17. LVP488

    LVP488 Formula 3

    Jan 21, 2017
    The nav in the 458 is so useless that it lets you get lost :)
    It actually happened to me the first time I test drove a 458 with a factory representative in a french countryside - the test that was supposed to last 20 mn or so took actually more than one hour to get back to the starting point (we struggled to have the nav providing any help and eventually just relied on road signs), and I really did not complain ;)
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  18. wthensler

    wthensler Formula Junior
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    I bought a really expensive telescope (astronut) that came with Argo Navis, the equivalent of NAVI, which helps find all the stars. Problem is the Argo is made in Australia and was programmed for the Southern Hemisphere. Couldn’t find a single star from our location in VA. My Astro buddies were rolling on the ground in tears........
  19. 458 Spider 0414

    458 Spider 0414 Formula Junior
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    RAY B
  20. luvair

    luvair Formula Junior
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    Jun 4, 2005
    Ferrari Nav as mentioned, worthless.
    I only use Waze for directions.
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  21. Suborbital

    Suborbital Rookie

    Apr 25, 2018
    Fallbrook, Ca
    ^ this, me too.
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  22. Chupee

    Chupee Formula Junior
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    Silly. Just bought a 13 TDF Spider no bluetooth or NAV Could care less. Heard many times the NAV sucks!
  23. SVCalifornia

    SVCalifornia Formula 3

    Mar 28, 2011
    Silicon Valley
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    Silly is right.

    Last week I was in a remote location which had no cell service.

    Waze did not work at all. Nor did any phone maps.

    Nav system is satellite based and worked perfectly.

    Of course if you never venture to remote locales, you’ll be ok.

    But what’s the fun in that??


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  24. AlfistaPortoghese

    AlfistaPortoghese Moderator

    Mar 18, 2014
    Europe, but not by much.
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    Very personal choice if you ask me.

    I'm always lost. So although I agree sat nav on any Ferrari could be better, I use it all the time.

    Regardless of Italia vs. Spider, (and also regardless of brand and model), I always go for the most, better optioned car. A 458 without sat nav and bluetooth would be a deal-killer for me. So many great 458s out there, that what is really, really hard is to find a car without such basic options such as the sat nav and bluetooth. And if you're buying with the foreseeable intent of reselling, that's a big no no, imho.

    Kind regards,

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  25. Cigarzman

    Cigarzman F1 Veteran
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    May 7, 2014
    Sarasota , Florida
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    I had a 458 spider for about 3 years and I couldn’t tell you if I had navigation or not. I’m not even sure if my 488 spider has navigation either. I always use my iPhone. Best ,Kirk.

    By the way , get the spider.

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