see these annual Ferrari fire threads always bring out 2 main groups: 1 the Ferrari apologists 2 the yes, they burn, there is a pattern I love Ferrari and wouldn't be deterred from owing one, but the next few posts will be largely in tone for one or the other.....
I think that second car (the smoldering heap) is questionable as to its authenticity. Obviously, that picture does not show the place where the car burned. It looks "posed" to me.
Several of the cars in the background have some sort of damage. It must be a salvage yard or something like that. The wheels & exhaust are obviously from a 458, but as you stated, that's definitely not the location where it burned. It's hard for me to imagine exactly how you would transport a heap of scrap like that.
Sadly,there will be one more unhappy owner in the future for this black 458 when he /she discovers the car was built up from the data plate with this serial number.While it's a constructive total loss from an insurance point of view you can make book on the fact it will someday gun you down on the road.Stick around for chapter two.
Probably a normal wrecker with a winch, along with a bunch of shovels and decent clean up crew. Maybe a small tractor if needed. I'm sure there's a known way of dealing with similar circumstances in the wrecking business, given the number of cars in general that burn. I'd bet that the majority of cars that burn have a significantly lower profile and generally go unnoticed by internet speculators.... The toasted 458 remains in question reminded me of this. http://www.wreckedexotics.com/enzo/enzo_20040306_002.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/enzo/enzo_20040306_001.shtml
When I see this= tears in my eyes http://jalopnik.com/5591993/this-pile-of-burnt-metal-used-to-be-a-ferrari-458-italia That's why Ferraris really have soul ....
Yeah finally there is a car that is beyond restoration ... I would be happy for this car's chassis to be used for a GTO or TR replica Pete
Just what constitutes "statistical significance"? We're talking about under 5 cars, so far. How many have been delivered? 200? I have NO idea. But, if we're talking less than 1%, I'd argue that that's NOT statistically significant. I'm sure the DOT and NHTSA have their own figures that they work with, though. Anyone know? CW
My guess is that a driver with situational awareness could smell something significantly before a fire started.
Does a bear sleep in the woods? http://www.mibz.com/13968-shocking-a-porsche-911-turbo-caught-on-fire-suddenly-in-usa.html June 25, 2010 "A Porsche 911 Turbo inexplicably caught on fire three days ago in United States of America. The incident has not left the victims and is the second of its kind in the U.S.A in last week." Image Unavailable, Please Login
Can anyone pls post the pics of 458's fuel tank cap! Wondering it was because of high pressure or that cap!?!
There is no cap to speak of anymore. The door opens to a module with a flap that opens when you insert the hose. Picture here. However, the red car that burned in the french alps seems to have caught fire on the rear left. The filler is on the rear right.
That's significant... at the black one in Paris the fire ALSO started on that side of the car... maybe time for a call-back action ??? Look's like a default mishap on that side above the wheel-arch...
Lots of joking, and apologists... Nobody realizes this is a serious matter? One reason I DIDN"T buy a Gallardo when shopping for my F-car was the many reports of them spontaneously combusting. I was seriously considering a 458 for my next F-car purchase (in a year or so, when I'll be able to afford one), but this puts me off big-time. There is obviously a problem, and a design flaw, for at least 3 to have spontaneously combusted so far, with only (guessing) several hundred so far in circulation. The fire also appears to come from the same place each time. Either Ferrari needs to fix it/recall immediately, or provide a free fire detection/supression system with each car (the latter said with sarcasm). As someone pointed out on one of the other site's threads, if I was the insurance company, I'd be asking Ferrari (and Lambo) some SERIOUS questions. This is BS for this to be happening, and there's no excuse.
Yes, no excuses Ferrari. These cars are brand new so it is not poor maintenance like a 308. They should do a complete recall. And yes I'm serious. If I owned one I would be returning it for double checks. Pete
At least the problem isn't limited to Italian exotics only - the cheapest car on the planet, the Tata Nano, also appears to have frequent spontaneous combustions: http://www.mibz.com/8683-caught-live-tata-nano-on-fire-the-cheapest-car-ignites.html Nice to know you don't have to spend $240k to get a B-B-Q'd engine compartment.
A friend who was at "Le Mans Classic" 2 weeks ago told me that Ferrari was doing demo of the 458, and they had to pack after 2 laps because the motor was burning....
