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488 GTB 7500 rpm Rev Limiter

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  1. cpiguy

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    After reading several reviews and finally driving the 488 in Monterey this weekend, I thought a dedicated thread on this issue might draw out the answer as to why the car's that we have all driven hit the rev limiter at 7500rpm.

    Has anyone seen a video or driven a 488 that ran all the way to 8000rpm???

    I loved the look, feel and performance of the car. I was with my buddy who's had also owned several exotics including a Carrera GT and drove up to Monterey in his brand new 911 GT3, and after driving the 488, his response was WOW, how fast can I get an allocation???

    The only thing we both didn't get was the rev limiter. So... Can anyone shed some light?
     
  2. 458trofeo

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    The redline is really at 7.5K ?
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  3. cpiguy

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    Just to be clear, the red line on the tach is definitely at 8000.
     
  4. Lesia44

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    As I said in the other thread, they seem to be artificially limited. As to why... Are they, perhaps, worried that the test cars will be abused with people constantly bumping off the red line as they bemoan the loss of rev range from the 458, so they want to give the engines a bit of breathing space. I bet the test cars suffer an unusually hard life as they're wrung out mercilessly at every opportunity. They're not, though, doing themselves any favours given the unusual amount of dissent amongst potential buyers at the moment. This is just one more thing to muddy the waters.
     
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  6. Stevenb

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    Maybe its marketing. First impression and see how the response is with potential buyers. Another 500 rpm will make the car feel better and give it a different character. They can adjust the product before the customer cars roll out. or maybe its just to keep the engine on a lower stress level as lesia has mentioned above
     
  7. 911C4S

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    i shall test drive the 488 for two days early next week. on friday the dealer told me that he has just received new software from ferrari, so maybe this rests the 8K redline. will report back on tuesday.
    peter
     
  8. PhilNotHill

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    Thought i read some reviews that the 488 rev limit was 7000-7500 rpm in the lower gears (1st, 2nd and even 3rd?). Torque is limited in those gears as well. 7th gear gets the full torque and full 8000 rpms.

    If the car has limited revs in the first few gears, do the LED lights automatically adjust for the rev limits in each gear or do you have to shift before all the LEDs come on? If the latter it makes the LED feature less useful.

    The 9000 rpm rev limit comes very fast in the 458. LEDs much better than using the tach in the 458. In fact, I am addicted to them.
     
  9. 458trofeo

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    Marketing I suppose: if they had red marks 'script' on the tach already at 7500 rpm it would
    be a turnoff for potential buyers after the tach spec of the 458.

    Or perhaps they are giving some room for aftermarket ecu upgrades that make the redline
    higher like the 9100 or 9300 rpm redlines of the Novitec ecus for the base and Speciale 458's..
     
  10. Lesia44

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    No, only the torque is limited in those gears, and it's also viable though the rev range so that you don't get one big punch all at once.
     
  11. TheMayor

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    Dear Ferrari:

    7500 is not 9000

    Signed,

    Your loyal but disappointed fans
     
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    Hey guys. I can tell you that when I launched the car here in LC mode it DID rev to 8000 rpm.

    I still haven't driven the car in auto mode to see if it will shift at 8000 but I suspect it will.

    I'm hoping the 7500 limiter in manual mode is a test car limit for some strange reason.

    http://youtu.be/pP7Fch_6ZZQ
     
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    I can confirm that non demo cars are @ 8000.
     
  15. Financialman

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    I drove the 488 two times over two days in Monterey, I hit the rev limiter a number of times, man this thing revs quick, but I do miss the extra rpm's the 458 delivers.

    As for the sound, the 488 sounds good but the signature Ferrari scream is gone....

    Will I buy one,I'm not sure yet, but if I do I will keep my 458.
     
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    8000 sucks. Even my F355 and 360 went to 8500.
     
  17. cpiguy

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    Really? The Incredible V12 Enzo has a 8000 rpm redline. 😱
     
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    Tell us more please:)
     
  19. Lesia44

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    And, if I remember correctly, both the F40 and 288 GTO are around the 7700 mark. Nobody is getting sniffy at those, though.
     
  20. TheMayor

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    Different era.

    The F40 and the 288 GTO were "honest" turbo cars. They embraced the turbo for what it was, good and bad. The 488 is a turbo car that the engineers tried to make seem like a NA car.

    In that regard, they came up just a bit short.

    That's why people get sniffy.
     
  21. mik458spider

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    It's not about the 7,500 or 8,000, but I notice that the car is louder at low rpm. I saw a Ferrari guy said that there was no point in turbocharged engine to bring the rev limit higher, so even if it's set 500 higher, that's just a flat artificial rev, unlike the NA that reached the peak at 9,000.
    Another thing is that in NA car that revs max to 7,500 rpm, like Cayman GT4, you would feel the engine pushing very hard during the 7,000 to 7,500, so you know the limit is coming. But in turbocharged, actually the max torque and power are reached during lower rpm, some more the sucking and hissing sound cover-up everything, so you don't feel the engine, that's why you don't notice the rev limit until the cut-off.
     
  22. rockitman

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    So many excuses to justify the inferior Ferrari car experience the 488 is to the 458. Best of luck Ferrari. Hope you find a lot of tree huggers. Your gonna a need it for turbo to be a sales success.
     
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    We were expecting a horse ........... and got a goat. And nobody wants a goat.




    Sorry - didn't mean to be sniffy but couldn't resist.
     
  24. RichardCH

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    Yes the low 488 RPM limit means Ferrari is in danger of disappearing up its own bottom, The C02 emission from the 488 vs 458 is not radically reduced either ........ wasn't this the whole purpose ?. Not sure why Ferrari didn't use smaller Turbos and raise the RPM, they can do it in F1
     
  25. qwertstnbir

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    How dare you criticize us? We are your master
     

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