Ordered mine today :-)
No sorry, nothing, but I am pretty sure in the way to the Challenge or GT3 version, Airintakes in front etc.,...
I thought the same thing........ Boy, there was a lot more hype about the Lamborghini Performante before it was released but yet the 488 GTO there seems to be nothing. I guess this is just how Ferrari rolls. Stop me if I'm wrong but there wasn't much notice/info before the F12 TDF came out and then "Wham" there it was hitting the automotive world like a ton of bricks.......I guarantee this is what the 488 GTO will do. I also guarantee it will match or exceed the Laferrari.
All I know is, I can't wait to see the thing. It will be the most exciting news since the 488 GTB launch. I'm not certain if it will appeal to me enough to want it over my 488 GTB, but I'm eager to see.
There looks like a wing on the back similar to the Laferraris "the air break" style......but that might not be what it is....
Actually, I have never seen much substance in these "spied" photos. I've never seen any correlation to these camouflaged, or masked cars to what we actually end-up seeing at reveal. Maybe I'm missing something. I think those cars are more about what is under the hood than than the way they look. There is far to much at stake for a company like Ferrari to just be driving their secret/future cars around Europe before they are unveiled.
Hell, about the tdf the thread had more than 100 pages well before the presentation, but now many people on Fchat just think to fight in the 488 vs 720S chit chat or go mad about McLaren and don't care anymore about Ferrari...pity for them.
It might look like this but in February we will know for sure as there will be some kind of preview before Geneva. Hopefully someone from this forum will be invited. The allocation strategy is still a mystery to me and the story seems to differ from one dealer to another. I have had my "GTO" on order since March 2017 with a signed contract (no deposit) saying that the completion is subject to final approval of the firm. A friend of mine went to the same dealer and got a similar contract few weeks ago. No deposit taken again as they claim they are not supposed to take any deposits as per the firm's instructions. Apparently, the TDF allocation saga got them a few legal headaches and Ferrari has instructed dealers not to take deposits until the pre-order is vetted. This dealer says that the company wants to see and vet every pre-order before deciding/confirming anything; however, the dealer has also been told that the number of 488 GTO they will get will be based on the number of 488 GTB they have sold and it seems to put some decision power back to the dealer. (Story 1) Another friend of mine went to a different dealer in Switzerland and signed a contract without any disclaimer about Ferrari Spa making the final call and he was asked to put a deposit down...which he did...implying the order is official (story 2)....In all 3 cases for me and my 2 friends, we are talking about spring 2019 delivery, not before and we all have a Ferrari history/pedigree over the last few years, not La Ferrari type of credentials but decent mix of new and second hand purchases (FF, 458) plus active participation to Ferrari events over the years....we will see who gets the car. Presentation in Geneva next March, production in september october, first deliveries in Europe in November. One thing is for sure, this car is getting a lot of attention and is in hot demand and this probably explains some of the internal Image Unavailable, Please Login fog behind allocation rules, at least for the first deliveries.
I guess I will have to stop you! At FChat the F12 TDF (or should I say F12 GTO) was extremely well vetted. It started around Christmas and there was huge debate with the 599 GTO crowd about the re-use of the GTO moniker. Was fun to watch but got old though. Also not sure how you can guarantee performance of/beyond LaF on a production car and a high volume one at that. The picture above looks identical to the GTB with the requisite flaps and gills treatment of the sport version. Not GTO worthy IMHO.
Car "has to" perform like crazy. 720S and Performante have set the "gold standard" and Ferrari needs to beat these. They will and in doing so it will surpass the LaF IMO. Also P15 will be an interesting car from McLaren and be seen at Geneva at the same time IMO. Geneva already booked - going to be amazing
I wasn't on F-chat when the F12 tdf came out so I apologize because I was talking more about the rumour mill on the internet at the time. I just remember reading internet pages the kept calling it the "F12 Speciale" but there seems to be very little. Do a google search for 488 GTO or 488 Speciale and not much comes up just some old posts from 6 months to a year old. .......now when the 812 Superfast was coming out I was impressed with F-chat(one of the many reasons I decided to join). There was soooooo much info on it and one member even gave away all the secrets after going to a private showing.......which I believe was told by Ferrari to take his posts down hahaha. I was hoping this was going to be the same for the 488 GTO but at the moment there isn't much info. Ferrari are doing a damn good job at hiding the details.
Taking into account all media euphoria let us not lose sight of the reality - therefore a few 488/720-facts. 488 GTB - 670PS, 760NM of torque. Track width front 1679mm, track width rear 1647mm, wheelbase 2650mmm, curb weight 3384lbs (source fastestlaps.com). 720S - 720PS, 770NM of torque. Track width front 1674mm, track width rear 1629mm, wheelbase 2670mmm, curb weight 3128lbs (source fastestlaps.com). It is obvious that already the "standard" 488GTB is not far away from the 720S and has all ingredients to beat this "super star", already the basic chassis geometry promises more agile driving capabilities (shorter wheelbase, wider axle layout). Current main weak points, its weight and its strongly GT-oriented chassis setup. Quintessence (and the 720S in honor): with a consequence diet and a little bit fine tuning on the "track oriented 488-version" it will not be a big effort for Ferrari to beat a 720S on the track.
The problem Ferrari faces is the 720 actually is nearer 770 or more according to this : http://www.carscoops.com/2017/10/mclaren-720s-lays-down-impressive-691.html
I think Mclaren is just playing dirty and they are fully aware that the 720s produces way more than 710hp so to throw off the competitors and give themselves a bit of breathing space
Not really. The primary focus on the length, oh sorry, on the hp-numbers is kind of ridiculous. When it comes to track-performance, many other parameters play a much more important role than the pure hp-number, should actually be known to a sports car enthusiast. The substance of the GTB is excellent. Engine, chassis layout, aerodynamic concept, everything already very sophisticated with huge potential. A sharper suspension and steering tuning (e.g. a more aggressive steering feel), lowering, additional 30mm track width on front and rear axle (...compare then the chassis layout parameters with the 720S), a more aggressive power development (reinforcements of the basic construction, narrower and sharper power curve at higher engine speeds which easily brings significantly more than 700hp) more aggressive torque output (reduction, optimization or cancellation of torque management), extreme weight reduction and we have our baby which sets the new track benchmark, whether it is called GTO, SP, P or Challenge.
F does not rally look at any opponents imo. In the MacL they used teh very best available brakes you can imagine, the LaF did not even have them ...
