488 Pista - qualifying demands

Agreed - my dealer has been quite open about what I need to do to get a Pista, and its my choice whether I want to go ahead or not. I just don't see the problem with this.

 

people just like to complain. Its national pastime. Proof? I am complaining now about complainers!

 

Either do I. There are more lined up to play than Pista's on offer so it's really a very simple choice....not hard. Complaining about it is not going to change anything.

Since becoming an owner I've heard the odd story about certain owners who's status has gone completely to their head. Frankly I don't know how Ferrari dealer staff put up with it. They must go to a special course to learn how to contain themselves as part of their induction training. Some if it's too embarrassing for words..

 

You can look at it as complaining or you can look at it as people just commenting on not wanting to play the game as some people are willing to play the game.

Regardless, I don’t see anyone upset and I’ve been reading this thread from the beginning.

Games and games and some are happy to play them and others not so much. But to simply comment about the policies in place is not complaining.

Congrats to those getting Pistas. It certainly looks to be a fantastic car.

 

Funny interpretation.

If there were plenty of Pista's for all then Ferrari wouldn't need to apply conditions. And then there would just be winging about the price....and perhaps lack of exclusivity.

There will always be winging, but it is what it is - winging. Please continue... my apology for standing in the way of a good winge session.

 

Ferrari can apply all the conditions they want. Some will try to abide by the conditions and others not so much. You are free to stand wherever you please.

 

yeah.... it's complaining. Is this not obvious? See it for what it is.

There I go again, complaining about complainers. I should know by now that complaining is just silly.

 

'winge session' that one is new to me. Love it. Is that like calling someone a wanker if you are from the UK or NZ?

 

Lmao!! Hadn't looked at it so much as it being a wank session however, looking at a couple of responses I guess "wank" could be fairly included here as part of the broader interpretation of the term (winge)....which is more associated to complaining. But sometimes complaining is like wanking depending upon what the complaining is about, so yes, quite right....maybe more wanking than winging going on here.

 

I worked around a lot of NZ guys ages ago when i worked for an Indy race car team. They called each other wankers...I picked up the phrase, but still not sure what it means. Now that I read your comment 'wank session' and the fact you are from that part of the globe I think i figured it out. Cheers Mate!

 

There are multiple meanings out here for the term wanker. One is someone having a complete lend of themselves or, trying to have a complete lend of others using the former tactic or, simply just complaining tirelessly about something they have no control over or, able to do anything about.

I think the US version for the term is "masturbation fest" or "wank fest"? Not sure.

 

HAH....so yes, Wanker does seem to apply here.

 

How can there be a lien holder when there is nothing to lien; i.e a loan ? If the dealer is not holding the loan how can they do this? It doesn't seem legal. This is certainly the first time that I have ever heard of this.

 

Exercising all reasonable logic I would say most certainly! Little point trying to argue otherwise.

PS GH good to see you have an avatar now! Nice.....long overdue mate!

 

Attacking other users. 2 day site ban.

Since you have so much disdain for this thread, 30 day thread ban.

 

You seem to have a decent attitude about being re-ranked. If I was in the same situation Id be giving the branch manager a smile and wave and letting him know that a change of staff, doesn't mean a change of your customer history.

I've just been told a similar story by my dealer about "purchase that model then you can buy that special car." I wouldn't say I have the purchase history that you do, but I do have solid weight as a customer.

I've been told - on the side - to call their BS and they will 'allow' me to still buy a special vehicle.

What a crock though...


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Agreed. Totally two different things.

Why would someone get confused by an agreement not to sell the car within X amount of time and a lien placed by the bank when the car is not paid in full? Where is the confusion?

 

No debt. No lien. End of story.

 

What is the big deal here?

 

Why are we even discussing this lien issue.

It's like arguing that, yes, a square is not round.

 

Guys, a right of first refusal or prohibition on transfer is not a lien. But it is an encumbrance on your ownership.

/discussion

 

Signing a personal loan contract using any commodity as collateral in the event of a default is not a lien. A lien is attached to a specifically named tangible property or chattel that has a debt still outstanding. The lien must legally be discharged upon full payment of the outstanding debt on the specifically named subject of the lien.

 

" complete lend of others"? " masturbation fest"? Perhaps I will open the bonnet of my car to check the fluids.Then fill up the car with petrol. Come back home and take the lift to the penthouse suite.Blokes here seem to indulge in argy-bargy and barney.

 

Now that is funny!

 

The introduction of the personal attacks and superiority complex on this thread is disappointing. The fact is Ferrari knows their customer base better than anyone. They are free to use whatever tactics they feel are necessary to sell cars. Some will put up and play the game, others will not.

But Ferrari needs to remember they are no the only game in town. lambo is turning out amazing cars. Porsche GT cars are more popular than ever. And of course you have the upstart Mclaren. Lots and lots of choices, but a relatively limited pool of buyers.

And rather than continue to get into the weeds here yesterday we spent all day out driving with some friends. I took my 720 out. Today I’m going out all day with friends and will be taking the 488 out. Enjoy your rides friends and let’s stop taking the online verbal battles too seriously. We are all fortunate to be able to enjoy these great cars. Drive in good health.