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4TH drive & fun stops with 348! Help with part!

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  1. TexFerrari

    TexFerrari Formula 3

    Sep 11, 2004
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    Fun stops for now at least. 1990 348ts.

    Lesson learned. Don’t drive a lowered car in the dark on unfamiliar roads. Was 10 seconds from a gas station stop and from being on my way home again, when a mound in the middle if of the road hit the bottom rear of the car at about 25-30 MPH, and then all gears feel like neutral, with depressing the clutch or not making no difference in the feel or activity. It will not go into any gear and just feels a bit stiff with no noise no matter what you do other then the engine running.

    After a long night home on a flat bed, I get the car up and look under it. Nothing structural, no major crapes/cuts, no leaks, nothing, until I find a bracket with two loops that holds the 2 red cables (linkage) that goes into a rubber diaphragm with a tin lid on the bottom next to the tranny. That double loop bracket that holds the transmission cables near the rear snapped, so I’m thinking the linkage now moves all over instead of where its supposed to, thus the car not going into gear. The bracket is attaches to the car with 3 bolts and has a “M” double arch piece that crews on the other end with 1 screw after you run the cables through it, like a clamp. The tin bottom cover of the rubber that covers the selector linkage also has a mild crease it that can be easly hammered back. A few pebbles where in it, but everything inside where the two cables move the selector back and forth looked ok under this tin peice. The hope is with this bracket back on, everything should work again as no leaks or abnormal sounds from the car, which still starts right up.

    With my luck, the small part of this bracked that would have the part number on this bracket is missing (the neck if it) just the mounting part and the part on the cables was left. If either starts or ends with a 6 or a 9. Please help me find this part so I can motor along again, and make sure not to miss any exits again and find my self on rough roads. Going ro rais the back half an inch also just to have that extra margin before my next outing also, lol.

    It could have been worse, and I'm learning a lot about the car, fixing what I can myself. So far having the "brotherhood" has been great as well. The car was going back for a few more cosmetics on Monday, but now I have to try and get this sorted out first.
     
  2. Miltonian

    Miltonian F1 Veteran

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    #2 Miltonian, Aug 13, 2006
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    Here's the diagram. I doubt if you would find the part number stamped onto any of the pieces. I can give you the Ferrari part number for any of these items, or Daniel will do it for you.

    Sorry this happened to you!
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  3. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
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    Now it all makes sense.... I picked up my voicemail this evening and got your message. #25 is part number 137476. I'll phone you around 9:00am CDT on the number you provided.

    -d
     
  4. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Sorry to hear about your delema.

    It's a pretty straight forward change, and should take you about 30 minutes to swap the part out, a hour tops. It's just the two nuts and bolts that hold the shifter cables in place, and the single bolt that holds the selector bracket to the slider. Just be sure not to loosen the retaining nuts behind the adjusters. If you do you, you can mess up the alignment of the cables, and cause problems getting it into gear, so be sure to leave those locked. Other than that it is a pretty easy swap.
     
  5. TexFerrari

    TexFerrari Formula 3

    Sep 11, 2004
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    Hello Dan:

    That was a friend that called and ordered the part for me, he was with me the night this all happened, thanks! He tells me it is already on its way and should be here tomorrow, which is great news. I hope this is all that is wrong, and that it will be back on the road shortly so I can share its online later this week after another appointment I had for it and take it on another drive of at least 2-3 hours :D

    Ernie, I think your talking about something else. I need the part that bolts to the side of the trans with 3 bolts, part 25 in the picture above.

    Again, as everything looks ok, I hope that is all that is to it. If I have to adjust the linkage, any words of advice on that?

    Even with some of the issues and problems I’m hunting still (was looking for project driver), the brotherhood and the go-cart like feel with the incredible sound of test pipes and tubi of this car still makes it’s a very positive and totally unique experience. I still maintain the 348 is one of the better looking Ferrari’s other then some of the classics, and the general public of non hardcore enthusiasts seem to agree, which I think is the best way to get an unbiased view on something so subjective. With the current setup, she really moves at speed. Another 60hp wouldn’t hurt either though, and I may be looking for them soon :D
     
  6. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    D'ho!
    Yeah I was talking about something else. All the same though, it's only four nuts that you need to mess with, and you don't even need to fool with the shift linkage.

    Well, unless your having problems getting the car into gear after you replace the part I would leave it be.

    But if you need to adjust the linkage you will need to remove bolt #49 and nut #50 (both 10mm) and remove the adjuster (not numbered, but #49 goes throught it) from the selector bracket (again not numbered, and again #49 goes throught it), then loosen the retaining nut (once again not numbered) behind the adjuster, and then either turn the adjuster in for more travel, or out for less travel.

    Like I said unless you are having a problem with getting it into gear I would leave the adjusters alone. It's isn't hard to adjust the cables just very time consuming.
     
  7. TexFerrari

    TexFerrari Formula 3

    Sep 11, 2004
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    Got the part today from Dan at Ricambi and got the car back together in about 2 and a half hours today. Only took that long because part number 30 was bent, and had to get it back into shape, and some strugle with the cable to get it back into the mount's groove. Thank goodness my part from Dan came with that double sided bolt (part 31) that holds the two together, as mine was toast, and I just had to reuse my part 30. So far doesn't seem like I will have to adjust the linkage, and should settle in nicely after a bit of driving, but a little time will tell.

    So the car works again but now my driver side window won't go back up, ugh, that’s another issues I'll get to it soon enough, and fix their slow as poop winding issues as well, lol.

    Dan, thanks for the prompt and excellent service! I didn't get the CD you mentioned though with the part?

    I now need to know if that plate (part 41) covers this entire area to protect it more in the future and I need the hardware to install it if so. I only see where 2 of the fasteners would go under the car for the side facing the front of the car, but don't see where the other end would attach to anything? As I don't have this part and never did, any help showing how it goes on would help.

    Also, are you supposed to be able to see the alternator from the bottom of the car or is another pate supposed to protect that and I'm missing another cover from the bottom of the car ? If I could get the specs (dimensions) for part 41, I could likely make a stronger shield then the OEM piece to safe guard all this from any nasty roads. If anyone has a photo of this area of their car, would be a huge help as well!
     
  8. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
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    The CD shipped separately via USPS Priority. It should be there today. I also included work shop manuals for your reading enjoyment.

    -d
     
  9. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
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    Holy crazy priced aluminium sheet, Batman!!

    http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?products_id=203310


    I know of one whacky owner that has driven in all seasons for 2 years without this plate.... (no, it's not me). Most Challenge cars had them ripped off, so there are usually some used ones floating around. It is *not* a simple shape, because of the louvers and bends of the cables and other undertray items.
     
  10. TexFerrari

    TexFerrari Formula 3

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    OMG, $500 for a aluminium sheet!! If I can find a used one, that would be excellent, maybe I can get some help in the hunt from the forum? Why don't people wonder why they have extra parts left after finishing a project!!

    What about plate 41, does it come with the hardware (screws, etc.) and does it need thus other sheet to connect to in some way? Thanks.
     
  11. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
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    Plate #41 does not come with the hardware. You'd need :

    front of plate
    2 x 15687970 screw $0.30/ea
    2 x 60696300 clip $1.00/ea

    rear of plate
    2 x 10902024 screw (#42) $0.25/ea
    2 x 127494 washer (#44) $0.42/ea
    2 x 12643724 washer (#45) $0.20/ea
    2 x 104339 spacer (#46) $3.00/ea
    2 x 60758600 nut (#43) $1.00/ea
     
  12. TexFerrari

    TexFerrari Formula 3

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    Can anyone post a photo of this area, so I can see how the place and other things attach? I don't see where holers on the back of plate 41 would line up with anything.
     
  13. Miltonian

    Miltonian F1 Veteran

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    #13 Miltonian, Aug 17, 2006
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    Here's a quicky picture taken after jacking up the back of the car. Plate 41 is just to the right of the louvers on the other plate.
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  14. Miltonian

    Miltonian F1 Veteran

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    #14 Miltonian, Aug 17, 2006
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  15. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
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    Heh heh... Jeff, our cars look similar from the underside. I call it "underbody rust protection".
     
  16. ERICZZ

    ERICZZ Karting

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    I bought a brand new protector from miller motorcars they had a stack of them . some kind of recall? I paid 100.00 a year ago
     
  17. TexFerrari

    TexFerrari Formula 3

    Sep 11, 2004
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    Eiczz, can you give me their contact details!!? If I can get this part, even if a little banged up/used, for $100, that would be a big help. Got lots of other little things to sort out, and a major late next year, so want to spread the money around :D

    I need this part 33 (looks like danger without it) and 41. The last owner is a member on here, hopefully he emails me back soon and has some ideas what happened, plus another missing trim piece. This is another reason why doing your own work when possible is a good idea.

    Miltonian, thanks a ton man. I do really appreciate it, puts it into context much better then the drawings alone when you never seen the part on the car in the first place. If you could get one from the other side of the car where the linkage is, it would tell me a lot about how to get the smaller plate on or make one, if you have the chance that is.
     
  18. ERICZZ

    ERICZZ Karting

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    Call Miller Motorscars in CT greenwich area Ask for parts tell heim what you need and ask about the "stack"
     
  19. Samy

    Samy Formula Junior

    Dec 2, 2005
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    Buy it in europe (england, france, germany, spain,..) there you got it for arround $100 + shipping costs declare as a gift to your private adress then you dont have to pay tax. Or pay tax should be cheap anyway.
    In England : Ferrari 348 GTS (1994) - PROTECTION PLATE Part No. 140847 £58.15
    Rest of Europe : Ferrari 348 GTS (1994) - PROTECTION PLATE Part No. 140847 86.00euro
     
  20. TexFerrari

    TexFerrari Formula 3

    Sep 11, 2004
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    What BS, why do we get ripped like this, FNA? Do you have any contacts for me Sammy? I have some German relatives that could get me the parts if needed. I have a few other things that are grossly overpriced, for example, what do the front driving/fog lights go for there? Thanks for the tip.
     
  21. TexFerrari

    TexFerrari Formula 3

    Sep 11, 2004
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    Sammy, also why are the part numbers different, are you talking about part number 33 or 41 in the pictures?
     
  22. Samy

    Samy Formula Junior

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    Number 41. 33 is only a washer for £0.37 :)

    Because of the language a contact in england would be the best f.e. eurospares in the uk he has nearly all prices(all what i've checked on the page are the official ferrari europe list prices) in his online shop so you can check the prices. The driving, indicator, fog lights thing for the 348 is also expansive £411. But the 355 lights front and rear are very cheap. Why ever.
     
  23. TexFerrari

    TexFerrari Formula 3

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  24. Samy

    Samy Formula Junior

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  25. Samy

    Samy Formula Junior

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    Is the part 34 from the first picture also that expansive in the usa? Here it costs 550 euro. Why? I only see a bolt with a thread on one side? ... i lost mine ....
     

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