512 BBi, #51257 ended up in my garage

Such a great job. The original pics were of a car in much need. It really is the caterpillar tuning into the butterfly. Enjoy her.

 

Hi Peter and Paul,
I just discover your thread while I just acquired a 512 BBi #41507, 82, fully revamped in Italy (Luppi, Zanasi) but with some fine tuning to bring it really "original", as Peter did.
First of all, all my congratulations for the job you achieved. Stupendous!
I take many points to check in my car, as Copiglias setting, etc.
But some precise questions as I already posted remain for me without clear cut answer:
The safety hook on the front lid is missing on my car and I am to buy one.
Thru your pictures I guess that it is yellow plating (as bichromated) as is my corresponding female catch is on the body.
Do you confirm this plating for a 82 car? Because on another 330 GTC of mine, this hook is plated CAD silver (authorised at that time) and I had it replated as such in Europe.
BTW, at the difference to the 330GTC where the 2 fixation screws are M6, it is M5 nuts on my 512?
Thanks also for the precise pics of the leather straps for small toolbag and spare wheel, because, amongst the usual vendors nobody knows about, shame...!
If you could tell me where to get them because absent on my car?
Lastly, the jack: it is reported Battaini F232 in the spare parts catalogue with sketch (the one with upper long plate terminated by an angle, yellow or blue, as on my 330GTC), while your looks black (blue?) with a small rectangular plate above (width 40mm to cope with body's rails).
Is it due to a change where early BBi's had the F232 long plate at the time of spare parts catalogue printing, and further change for a black one for later cars, as your 84 one?
Would be delighted to receive your feedback on above, and, again congrats!
Best,
Jean-Paul

 

Jean-Paul congratulations on your car and welcome! I happened to notice this morning while reading the latest issue of Forza, in the back there is an advertisement by Two Redbirds for Ferrari leather trunk replacement straps. I have no idea about this company but perhaps they could help you. 512-520-7838 or tworedbirds.com

 

Thanks John for this vendor based in Austin as I can see on their website.
Indeed, they do these small straps for the front boot (one for the small tool-bag, one to secure the spare wheel). I will contact them, but, as far as I can see on their site, the buckles are not in conformity with the original ones as they appear on Peter's thread.
BTW, I see that you own a 512 BBi as well.
So, could you tell me how is the plating (yellow or CAD silver or else), if original to your knowledge, of the safety hook, and associated 2 bolts, of the front lid on your car?
Any advice on the jack as mentioned in my previous message.
Thanks again,
best regards,
jean-Paul

 

apparently brown is the new hot color......congrats awesome 512!!

 

Looks purple to me?



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Prugna, check spelling.

 

Thanks a lot Peter for your answer.
You confirm that the safety hook is yellow plated as many cars of the 80's.
i questioned many of the usual vendors in UK, Italy, France but either they don't know or commit on the plating finish, either they answer "silver", in fact Zinc Chromate which, BTW, is not the colour of the F cars of the 60's (same hook) as for my other 330GTC.
It is silver CAD original, but CAD plating is very difficult to get because now dedicated mostly to airplanes, for environmental reasons.
So I will try to find a yellow hook (dichromate which is the same as Gold cadmium), or, if not, I'll get any NOS one and have it plated dichromate.
For the jack, your conclusion is what I guessed, black with small upper plate in 84, while earlier (change when?) it was probably as on the Spare parts catalogue with the Battaini 232 (the one with a long upper plate). And may be, by Pinin, the jack sketched in the Spare parts catalogue has never been...
So if Paul Newman could give his insight, I would be very grateful.
Otherwise the pics of both small leather straps in the front boot confirm how the nickel buckles were, and vendors don't easily sell the good ones: did you have these straps/buckles remade? And in case where to speed up my search. Thanks.
May I tell you that I examined closely all your pictures and put them in a folder which is my reference book .
For instance, as you did, I will put a 5mm Copiglia clamp on the solenoid to replace the plastic one.
Since I could admire your car, I enclose some pictures of mine (restored last year by Luppi for upholstery and Zanasi for all the rest). But still to do some changes: as missing EQ & radio Pioneer, and the big tool bag with jack & tools.
Again, all my congratulations and thanks for what I call the 512 BBi thread Bible.
Best, Jean-Paul

 

Hi Peter,
thanks, I try to attach pics in jpeg (less heavy).
If you have any comment on incorrect originals, welcome.
Already pointed thanks to your pics: incorrect radio, EQ, Colson clamp on starter coil (already changed for Copiglia), missing sticker on water tank (ordered), wrong water hose route on rear side (to do)
Yes, I would appreciate to receive additional info on both black belts (front boot, one for tool bag and one for spare wheel): dimensions (length, width, thickness) and any pics close up for stitchings.
The most difficult will be to find chromed buckles exact replicas with a local leather maker, but let's see.
I just bought a jack tool bag for reasonable price since incomplete, and a wheel nut monodado wrench.
Now searching oil filter wrench (dichromate without black gum on handle since 82'), tow hook M12 (simple, but incredibly difficult to find the exact one for BBi), mallet, and bulbs box.
Thanks again,
Jean-Paul

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The car looks great..fantastic progress! If however anybody is interested the previous owner of this Boxer is now selling his Countach. According to him it is the last car the factory restored. He does indeed have all the paper work for it also..and it's a mountain or reading.

When I last saw the Boxer gotta be 15-20 years ago now..it was a great running machine..but the front end damage was very obvious. Interior was mint tho and complete.

 

gradulation to those history papers and the reunited with the car. this will not happen often.
thank you for letting us know

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Dear Peter,
After your fantastic renovation work, you deserved to be lucky by getting all this documentation!
I wish I would get the same with my #41507 since I tried to identify the first owner M.Othmar Piessl in München, without success up to now (warranty card dated 29/04/1982).
Best, Jean-Paul

 

Dear Peter,
I come back to you to follow your thread #210 about leather straps in the front boot, mostly the one for secondary tool bag.
I am still looking to have this done according to original stiches and buckles shape, which I couldn't find up to now.
You nicely proposed to send me pics of this strap (and the one for spare wheel) and I would love to get that.
BTW, if your leather-maker in Denmark could do it, why not; because Denmark is not that far from France/Bordeaux where I live.
But I read that you kept the original buckles, replaced, so I imagine that this leather-maker doesn't get the same, but who knows?
In the same way, the small tool bag is wrapped within a "camoscio" enveloppe with stamped Cavallino and zip, which I have not.
Do you know where I could get it for reasonable money (I don't concourse...).
thanks a lot for your help,
PS: I suppose now that you could see my BBi pictures which explain my willingness to get it perfect (I am currently replating the 9mm copiglia bands of the air intakes in yellow dichromate since wrongly Zn during the resto).
Best,
Jean-Paul

 

This is amazing Peter!! Fantastic to have it. Even when now owning a BB this would be great ad to any collection.


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Hi Peter and other F boxer chatters,
I sent you below message in PM, but probably you didn't get it, so that I post it to all members interested.
My purpose is to have the leather straps in the front lid of my 512BBi remade as original.
Thanks to anyone who can help,
Best,
Jean-Paul

Initial message:
Dear Peter,
I come back to you thru a PM because I suppose you didn't see the message I posted on the thread of your renovation.
I let you read below my purpose and look forward for your answer about manufacturing the straps for my "new" 512BBi #41507.
Many thanks in advance,
Jean-paul

I come back to you to follow your thread #210 about leather straps in the front boot, mostly the one for secondary tool bag.
I am still looking to have this done according to original stiches and buckles shape, which I couldn't find up to now.
You nicely proposed to send me pics of this strap (and the one for spare wheel) and I would love to get that.
BTW, if your leather-maker in Denmark could do it, why not; because Denmark is not that far from France/Bordeaux where I live.
But I read that you kept the original buckles, replaced, so I imagine that this leather-maker doesn't get the same, but who knows?
In the same way, the small tool bag is wrapped within a "camoscio" enveloppe with stamped Cavallino and zip, which I have not.
Do you know where I could get it for reasonable money (I don't concourse...).
thanks a lot for your help,
Best,
Jean-Paul

 

https://www.classicferrariparts.co.uk/shop/ferrari-512bb-tool-kit-cover-pouch/

Apologies Jean-Paul if you have seen the above ad already.

 

Thanks Terry,
I didn’t see it. That is the right product.
But quoted 500GPB, you must add VAT plus duties post Brexit plus freight comming to 750€ circa landed in France
For such a simple pouch of « camoscio » with a small zipper, I wish to remain reasonable and don’t wish to pay that. Some leathermaker could do it for 50/100€, providing I get the cavallino stamp.
thanks again.
Jean-Paul

 

J-P I completely agree with you. I posted the link partly because the price asked is half any other similar ad that I found.
Have one made and then drive over it a few times to give it some character!
Perhaps some kind Fchatter could lend you one, as a pattern for your chosen leather craftsperson.

 

Dear Terry,
Hope so, but looks with little chance since this stamp tool is quite expensive and heavy.
But, maybe some leather maker could get it for previous realisation and propose the pouch for reasonable price....
Cheers,
Jean-Paul

 

Congrats on your purchase, but your modesty did not mention it was Bebel's car !
Ps : I am waiting my (new for me) BBi service in Toulouse impatiently !

 

Hi Xavier,
Yes it is JPB former BBi, you are a Connaisseur!
The car is beautifully restored but I have still some AC clutch compressor to fix up ( nice to have it functioning this summer, …but not). In Bordeaux not easy to find an AC specialist because I have probably some mini/maxi pressure cut-off problem. I will go and see the Ferrari dealer workshop head who could indicate me an authorized specialist (see other thread on this subject). Turbo Jo, Newman, and Pshoejberg are very knowledgeable and helpful on 512BBi.
You are based in Toulouse?
But what do you mean by « waiting my BBi service ». You will get a 512 shortly?
Let us know,
Cordialement,
Jean-Paul

 

Based in Brittany five months a year and Indonesia, the rest.
Indeed, I am waiting for a BBi now in Toulouse. Can't wait, so impatient.
Cheers