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512TR 1993 vs 1994

Discussion in 'Boxers/TR/M' started by jaturon, Feb 7, 2005.

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  1. jaturon

    jaturon Formula 3

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    I am about to pull the trigger on 512TR 1993 no ABS. I am just curious of the differences between 1993 no ABS and 1994 with ABS. Is there other differences apart from ABS?
     
  2. Tuco

    Tuco Karting

    Mar 10, 2004
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    No differences
    only the abs which they started in oct 93 for the 94 model year.
    Are you purchasing a U.S. or euro car ?
    Rosso corsa ?
    Tuco
     
  3. jaturon

    jaturon Formula 3

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    It's a RHD, rosso corsa with 18k km on it.
    It has only been driven 300 km for the past 5 years and has been kept in a special car-coon climate controlled.
    The colour is like brand new, the interior is excellent.
    The belt was changed 4 -5 years ago but only 300 km on it but I suspect I have to change it anyway just to be safe.

    Haven't pulled the trigger but need to give my decision tomorrow so I just wanna know about differences between 512TRs from 91-94.
     
  4. Jerrari

    Jerrari F1 Veteran

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    Don't you mean 92-94? Or were they available in other parts of the world in '91?
     
  5. rjnavion

    rjnavion Karting

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    There is one mechanical change that I ran into when the clutch slave cylinder went out. I have a '92 512TR, SN: 92223, and found there is a later throwout bearing and slave cylinder described in a bulletin or update Ferrari issued. Do a search for 512TR Hydraulic Clutch for a thread I started 12-19-2003 and a copy of the bulletin. There is more to replace than just the bearing and seals as it needs a new carrier or supporting flange plus numerous other small parts (some aren't shown in this bulletin but are in the parts book). Parts cost was about $1300 and about a day of my labor but I wouldn't consider putting it back together with the old style. This is not something that would keep me from buying a particular car, though.

    Don't have a clue to the year model this change came in as the parts book gives the break at engine serial number #33999. My engine number is #29896.

    I have mixed emotions about the ABS system. It is something else that can go wrong and I never drive on wet roads (or sure don't intend to unless I get caught out). But I always try to have the latest technology that's available. So it's a personal choice and for myself wouldn't be too important of a factor between two cars. Ron Judy
     
  6. jaturon

    jaturon Formula 3

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    What would be the difference in prices between with/without abs cars assuming other things are similar?
     
  7. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I wouldn't give any $ premium for the added complexity of ABS -- JMO.
     
  8. ferrarifixer

    ferrarifixer F1 Veteran
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    If you have any interest in doing track work, Check which brakes the car is fitted with. The Brembo calipers are better than the ATE, as they have a larger pad area, FWIW.

    There is no way to know which is fitted other than looking at them. The Brembo has a 100mm high pad and the ATE is 89mm off the top of my head.
     
  9. Tuco

    Tuco Karting

    Mar 10, 2004
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    I agree.
    My abs is proper brake application : )
    imo a car as raw as a Testarossa/512TR should'nt have any nannys.
     
  10. robert biscan

    robert biscan F1 Veteran
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    It is common knowledge that a 94 512tr carries a 20k premium than that of a 92 or 93. This due to the fact that it is the last year other than the M and it highly sought after. Also Enzo himself sat in each and every car that was made in 94. It was his favorite F car which is also widely know. In his will he has a trust fund to buy back all 94's 15 years after the production run and has ordered them back to Italy where he believes they belong. The idea being he will rest better.
    What a strory ? Actually I own a 94 and I got it due to condition and milage and color combo. I don't think it's a big deal that it is a 94 with ABS brakes. Get the car you want in the color you want if you can find it.
     
  11. vlamgat

    vlamgat Formula Junior

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    Actually if you kneel by the front wheels and look at the bottom of the caliper (you may need to role the car to move a spoke) you can see the ATE raised sign embossed on the caliper. Its small, about 5 mm max but with a good light very visible.

    I agree with the point made bout the Brembo being better but more because the pad will last longer. You can overcome this problem by going with a Porterfield R4 pad which works every bit as well as a standard Brembo but may be tougher on the rotor.
     
  12. jaturon

    jaturon Formula 3

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    I have no interest in tracking my potential 512TR. Just wanna enjoy the V12 as I have 328GTS and would never sell it as it is in immaculate condition.
    Would like to enjoy the thrill in 512TR as I think it looks superb and well designed.
     

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