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512TR Autobahn Undertrays - Any interest

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  1. Auraraptor

    Auraraptor F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    Compared to US cars, select Euro Market 512TRs came with x4 undertrays to improve high speed stability and airflow. I was able to source 1 of 4 panels after years of searching as they are notoriously hard to find.

    Fortunately, through a friend I was able to borrow a full set of Euro/German-spec 512TR undertrays to duplicate as it's just stamped/cut metal.

    Any interest in OEM-matched reproductions from any 512TR owners to complete your car?

    (This is not a commercial post...I just know how long it took me to find the 1 of 4 original panels (3 years) and figured someone else may be similarly interested. They wont be cheap to get a clone as welcome to small batch production of TR parts....if no interest, that's fine. I still want this to complete my TR!)

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    I think as seldom as we are ever able to go triple digit speeds and all the additional heat US cars generate and the amount of airflow those will reduce, and with the hotter temps in much of the USA and the traffic we have on average you are better off without them.

    Ferrari did not leave them off US cars for no reason. Ferrari does their hot weather long term durability testing in the US for good reason and changes made to US cars is usually for equally good reason.
     
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    Are you sure about their purpose and market designation?

    Some are "valid for CH, CH and AUS, and not for USA, CDN, J".
     
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    Good catch. They are for noise reduction, not aerodynamics.

    Switzerland has the most strict noise regs in the world, and I guess Australia is right there with them.
     
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    Australia.

    Austria is AT.
     
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    After I thought about it for a minute I remembered that.
     
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    Fascinating, I was always under the impression they were for underbody Aero. I know the US style pre-cats can hit them/interfere with them so on cars with pre-cats, they dont (usually) have underbody trays.
     
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    If you scan the page many of the other items are noise insulation too. To the best of my knowledge Switzerland started the noise standard method of measuring noise driving down the road so sound insulation over and above just quiet exhaust was the norm there for a long time.

    Thanks for questioning it. I knew of their existence, had seen pictures but never looked them up to know what they were for.
     
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    Australia and Switzerland use the same precats we do so they must be designed to be compatible. I have no doubt the early precats would interfere but these panels were never used on the early TR.
     
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    I have something like that on my car, but it's clearly aftermarket and it doesn't have a hole underneath. But it obviously makes sense, because it is installed mainly for protection of the sump. It was installed by the previous owner in Switzerland. Something like this can be very easily be made, by my opinion.
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    that looks like aluminum checker plate in 2 mm? ( in german: alu-riffelblech or alu-traenenblech )
     
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    I think the swiss owner did this because of oil leaking. the swiss technical controle ( MFK - motor fahrzeug kontrolle ) is very exact and they not tolerate oil at the engine or gearbox or elsewhere oil on the car
     
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    No idea, I see it as an extra protection underneath, so I left is as it is.
     
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    Not that I know of.

    Not going back on though. Might make for a more modern undercarriage but they just collect stuff and cover the rear lift points.

    They do have some insulation on, probably some nice asbestos.

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    What is the piece of tubing between the transfer case and the gearbox? I know some cars don't have it. The transfer case overflows into the gearbox sump.
     
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    It was a tsb on later cars. The only thing that ever made sense was greater oil circulation in transfer gears. Never saw any issue in cars without it.
     
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    Brian, didn't Kent G have these on his car??? Somewhere in my fading brain i recall him telling me about it???
     
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    Have no idea. Based on how often his transmission blows up it can't be helping.
     

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