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  1. ScottS

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    Why have not these taken off?

    Recent example for a great value and similar prices. Mike had another he sold for around the same or less.


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    6 speed. Special. Open. Is it limited use that keeps them down?

    Curious for others opinions.


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  2. tazandjan

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    Likely for the same reason Ferrari has not been able to sell the Monza SP models as quickly as hoped.
     
  3. Themaven

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    That particular car seems to have Alcantara around the instrument binnacle, and a stitching in yellow around the centre of the wheel. Aftermarket?

    The leather on the wheel looks a bit sun faded, which I guess is the danger for these cars.

    I was tempted by one. I could sell my gated 575 plus use the insurance money from my 550 which was killed by a falling tree, to buy a nice one. But I have never been seriously tempted, despite the fact that I love open cars and would have bought a standard spider version of a Maranello in a heartbeat, if they had made one. (It would be a good complement to my gated 430 spider).

    My reasons for saying yes: looks great, rare, nice spec, come in some cool colours (I saw a beautiful Rosso metalizzato one here in Switzerland yesterday). Really pretty Ferrari with a V12 and open top and gated, what's not to love?

    My reasons for saying no: much more money and no more power or handling prowess than a standard 550 (in fact less good to drive), and 550s not that rare. Less good to drive than my gated FHP 575.

    No roof. I live in England and while I have probably had the roof shut while driving my 430 twice in five years, it's also about security a) of knowing there is one of it does rain and b) being able to park it in public.

    In California or Texas or Monaco you'd have concerns about sunburn, and in Florida you'd rarely be able to take it out for a couple of days.

    and then there's the value element, is it really worth three times a 550? I guess the market says just about yes, but no more.

    If they had spiced it up, if it had more practicality, then I guess it would be even more desirable. Still, a fantastic car and a 20 year old car selling for hundreds of thousands is obviously super desirable anyway.
     
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  4. Il Tifoso

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    Alcantara around the binnacle is standard for this model… I’ve not seen contrasting stitching on the wheel like this before.

    Ruben
     
  5. defros

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    None of the cars had Alcantera. The fabric used on the Barchetta's is another material. It was on the center tunnel, binnacle and rear panel behind the seats.
    I have considered replacing mine with Alcantera, since mine has faded over the years.
     
  6. cgt000

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    The material is called Lorica.
     
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  7. defros

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    Is the Lorica material still available? Ideally I would like to use the original fabric, even though it has not been as durable as Alcantera.
     
  8. JAM1

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    Lorica is no longer available. Aside from Ferrari I’ve tried a dozen or so shops that used to have it with hope of enough leftover to do the job with no luck. Alcantara is the best bet…
     
  9. cgt000

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    I just had mine replaced. The fabric is available in Italy.
     
  10. JAM1

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    Can you share who sourced it? Both my Ferrari dealers in FL and NY said nla and I called all over the place looking!
     
  11. defros

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    Great information. Can you let me know where you purchased it, so I can order some as well.
     
  12. cgt000

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    Bradan had ordered the material for me 3+ years ago.
     
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  13. JagShergill

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    I’m also from England and used to rain - All the time .
    Recently bought the Barchetta -superb ! Flawed , yes , undervalued - definitely . I don’t just mean financially , but also fun wise .
    Imho ( and several fellow collectors /driver friends ) a Manual gated, V12, numbered individually and limited … 448…. Should be equivalent in value to Carrera gt- circa £750k…. “Should”….. however , I believe will increase from about the £300k present cost to about £500k- soon I believe ….
    Anyway- fun fun fun
     
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  14. JAM1

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    Appreciate the info. I spoke with them before and was told nla. Talked to them again yesterday and they said it's possible but they can't guarantee getting enough to do the entire job but that could change in time (covid supply chain issues). In any event I will keep it in mind for redoing my car but the alcantara durability sure is appealing.
     
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  15. -K1-

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    I’d love to hear more of your thoughts on how it drives please as you clearly have some other lovely cars.
     
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  16. JazzyO

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    Drive a 550 and imagine the wind in your hair. :)
     
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  17. brogenville

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    Comparable value to a carerra gt is daft in my opinion. CGT is a bespoke car through and through (ok, save for a few 996 switches), and an incredible drive. The barchetta isn’t a pretty thing in my eyes, and underneath it’s “just” a 550.


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  18. -K1-

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    1/3rd the price of a CGT
     
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  20. JagShergill

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    Hi Robin.
    I hope you’re well …
    Daft? You’re welcome to you’re opinion however would never call your ‘opinion ‘ daft /stupid/idiotic…. Like me you’ve probably driven a cgt/550 barchetta// 550 when they 1st came out and again in the last 2 months - if that’s the case I’m bowing to your insight…. Regards ,
     
  21. JagShergill

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    However , I guess your probably being a little snobbish … The 550 Barchetta is lovely - far from perfect , but special nonetheless. The CGT is lovely , far from perfect , nonetheless and made in significantly higher numbers - I may be being a little prickly at my thoughts be being labeled “Daft” , but , hey ho- 1st world problems . . . If you’ve driven both a cgt and 550Barchetta within recent memory , then fair enough - if you haven’t , still fair enough - your opinion isn’t “daft” , just based on your ability to google
     
  22. cgt000

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    I have both. It's really not fair comparing the two. They're both great in their own ways. CGT needs ALL your attention when driving it fast. It puts a huge smile on your face but can get you mentally and physically exhausted. The Barchetta is much easier to drive fast and demands less concentration. When given a choice, my wife picks the Barchetta every time over the CGT for a fun weekend drive.
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  23. JagShergill

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    Now THATs a fabulous 2 car garage ! Beautiful
     
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  24. ralfabco

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    Beautiful cars. Enjoy.

    I understand Ferrari did not present a press car for the automobile magazine authors and drivers to examine and test and publish the results. Perhaps this limited cover articles which restrained promotion, demand, and hype for the car.

    Some moan about the issue with the top and the impractical method to install. The original old open top F cars with little to no windshield have no top at all. Yes it is not the same type of car. Not everyone wants a practical daily driver car. It is the easiest exotic I have driven.

    Interesting how the Murcielago and LP 640 have taken off in value. Especially the LP640 manual. I assume the Murcielago and LP640 Roadster with the manual is already ahead in value of the Barchetta. In addition the Diablo Roadster has held it’s value.

    Not all that many reasonable F car options with an open top, 12 cyl, and a manual box.
     
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  25. brogenville

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    Apologies gents- when I call people daft I really don’t mean any offence. This is all in my humble opinion as someone who has driven neither a barchetta or a CGT. For me though, a CGT deserves to be 3 times the price or a barchetta. Remember the CGT came out as a competitor to the Enzo, and I don’t think many people typically compare the barchetta as being on the same level as an Enzo.


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