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  1. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Anybody have some more numbers we can use to make this table more complete? Handy for estimating when equipment changes were made.


    575M 575 SA Assembly # vs VIN

    Assembly # VIN
    47900 130820
    48002 130839
    49145 131985
    52428 135171
    56657 139110
    58737 141041
    61558 (SA) 143927 (SA)


    Taz
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  2. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Now we're talking...! This is my kinda thread...!

    575M Maranellos
    122976 - 46985

    127394 - 44689 (575 GTZ)

    128195 - 45349

    129078 - 46178

    129444 - 46425

    129829 - 47044

    129981 - 47026

    129986 - 47118

    130407 - 47540

    130629 - 47766

    130820 - 47900

    130839 - 48002

    131541 - 48596

    131551 - 48655

    131562 - 48731

    131985 - 49145

    133912 - 51112

    134032 - 51089

    134689 - 51938

    134792 - 51935

    134903 - 52161

    134915 - 52128

    134944 - 52259

    135171 - 52428

    135481 - 52846

    136058 - 53374

    136421 - 53570

    138474 - 55888

    138671 - 55981

    138770 - 56145

    138897 - 56508

    139110 - 56657

    141041 - 58737

    141669 - 59095


    Superamericas
    141918 - 59216

    142549 - 59921

    142550 - 59959

    142822 - 60351

    143309 - 60717

    143927 - 61558

    144228 - 61794

    145095 - 62391

    146046 - 63404

    146052 - 63237

    146390 - 63596

    146656 - 63736

    146657 - 63758

    147413 - 64359
     
  3. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Carbon- Holy Mackeral. Would seem you have been at this longer than I have. Great additions. A few non-sequiturs in there. Obviously I did not add much to your list.

    Taz
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  4. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Terry... I gotta be honest - I'm pretty sure you've been at this a lot longer than I have. I'm continually amazed at the knowledge and insight in many of your posts, and I often read threads I normally wouldn't read, simply because you've posted in them.

    I might have more assembly numbers than you, but I'm single (and still a virgin) and obsessed, which explains the hours and hours I put into information cultivation each week. I bet if we hung out for a day, I'd learn a buttload.

    By the way, I already had only one or two of the assembly numbers you posted - and every single piece of information helps. :)
     
  5. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Carbon- Do not be modest. I believe you had all of them. Will add yours to my Word table and post it soon.

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  6. 134282

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    LOL, I swear I didn't. You contributed to my data - as you've unwittingly done in the past. Your name comes up in my database almost a dozen times...!

    Do you collect engine numbers, gearbox numbers and dates of production as well...?
     
  7. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Carbon- Not engine numbers, and build dates only on the four I have owned.

    Now if you want all the known data on the Fokker Dr.I or Albatros C.XII, let me know. Two books on the latter already and enough data and photos (500+) on the former for two or three more books.

    Taz
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    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    I would love to have that information. :)

    Are those planes...? You've written two books on planes...? That's awesome...!!!
     
  9. JazzyO

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    Of course! Fokker was our national pride for 75 years. Too bad we sold them to the Germans in WWI, but hey, all is fair in business and we were neutral after all. :)

    Nice one, Terry.


    Onno
     
  10. sf_hombre

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    Let me add mine: 2005 575M GTC 140946 58521
     
  11. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #11 tazandjan, Jun 2, 2009
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    Don- Many thanks. Will get Carbon his info soon, but first have to make shrimp etouffee for my wife. Luckily have my own recipe which is bog simple to use.

    Taz
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  12. fou

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    134792 - 51935

    tell me more about this please
     
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    Cool, thanks, Don! It's an F1, right...? I don't suppose you know the engine number and date of production...? :)

    Thanks, Terry. Take your time - I need to look up 'etouffee'.

    What would you like to know...? It's an absolutely stunning car liveried in Grigio Ingrid with a tobacco leather cockpit. It's got power Daytonas with tan inserts, piping and stitching, and tan carpets. It has shields, red calipers, a 575M trunk badge and, best of all, it's a manual...!
     
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    damn. feel like big bro is watching.

    terry, u have mine?
     
  15. FLA VPA

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    2005 SA Assembly nr. 61944 Vin #144583

    Hope this helps.
     
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    NNO so for us common folk where am I
     
  17. fou

    fou Formula 3

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    What is the correlation (sp?) to serial number and build number? I know a car on that list with a serial number after mine, yet has a build number almost 200 before mine. What gives with that?
     
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    Nice! A manual...!

    I'll never forget that number. :) But I was too enthralled with the ride and the weekend to get the assembly number; so while that six-digit serial is branded in my memory, the five-digit assembly is a mystery to me.

    Terry can answer that question; and I'll be anxiously awaiting his reply so that I can find out, too.
     
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  22. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Interesting, thank you. I had it down as a manual because that's how it was advertised by Scottsdale last July.
     
  23. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    FOU- Ferrari planners assign blocks of serial numbers (VINs) to cars as they receive orders and estimate needs for each model. The serial numbers are assigned sequentially, now using both even and odd serial numbers. In the past, street Ferraris had odd serial numbers, and Dinos and race cars had even serial numbers.

    When a Ferrari, which already has an assigned serial number as part of the ordering process, actually begins the run down the assembly line, it is assigned a sequential assembly number completely unrelated to the serial number, but just on the car's position on the assembly line. The next Ferrari to reach the assembly line will have an assembly number one higher than the previous car. Which Ferraris reach the assembly line first is most likely used to fine tune the model mix and may also be related to availability of parts.

    If you look in the Ferrari parts catalogs, you will notice parts are ordered by assembly number, not serial number. Use of the assembly number ensures all cars with that assembly number or higher on the assembly line will have the latest part. Since the serial numbers are not necessarily, or even usually, in sequential order, the assembly number is used because it is sequential on the assembly line.

    Here are a couple of examples based on my old 1970 Euro Ferrari Daytona, 14009, assembly number 364, completed on 15 December 1970. A 1970 Euro Daytona, 13987, for sale at Boardwalk, has assembly number 354, indicating it was 10 spots in front of my Daytona on the assembly line. A US spec 1971 Daytona 13999, however, has assembly number 368, indicating it was four places behind my 14009, even though the serial number is lower. Why? Perhaps grouping US spec cars, perhaps all parts not in place for this very early US spec car? Do not know for sure. Just that it began assembly after my old car.

    Let me know if anyone has any further questions. The serial number and assembly number relationship can be used to estimate the serial number where a parts upgrade took place, and that estimating process is actually fairly simple to do.

    Taz
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  24. fou

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    Thanks for the info, I sorta figured the serial number with order thing, but did not think about the multiple country build requirements and build order. good info
     
  25. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #25 tazandjan, Jun 3, 2009
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    Here is what I have so far and more columns can be added if necessary for colors, options, etc. Carbon has some of the other data if anyone is interested. We can also add in rows for when major upgrades on the 575M occurred. Such as: Central Muffler Delete, Assembly # 51797; Shock ECU Upgrade, Assembly # 52556; Shock Update, Assembly # 55769, etc if anyone thinks that would be valuable.

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