575M vs 612

575 are not @ $140k

imo range closer to $75-110k

 

I'd say there's plenty of evidence to the contrary.

 

2004 models are $120K and up.
SuperAmerica versions are $225K and up.

In reply to the OP…maybe the 575 is holding value as its more of a classic look???? Thoughts all?????

 

It seems like 4 passenger Ferraris never seem to do well.
Same story with the 456 and the current FF.

 

I think 612 is aging better than 575. 575 looks dated to me now, inside and out, where 612 still looks relatively current. The difference in usability with the 612 over the v8's I've had is huge, and 575 would be no different. Sucks not having the extra space. I don't get to use my car the way I was hoping, for family events, but I do use it for all manner of daily driving where anything without a back seat would be completely impractical.

 

then i guess i got a great deal on my late production '04 575 fhp nero/nero w all options xcept hgtc/carbon fiber for very low $90's

here's an '04 575 that started at $114k several months ago...now asking $110k and sitting

Cars for Sale: 2004 Ferrari 575M Maranello in SAN CARLOS, CA 94070: Coupe Details - 355458179 - AutoTrader.com

 

and this '05 575 (old photos/link from years ago when only 3k miles ) sat on autotrader until asking got down to $105K within the past month...believe it had 14k miles on it now.

2005 Ferrari 575M Maranello F1 for Sale

 

In general, prices on 575Ms are overlapping at the upper end of 575Ms and the lower level of 612s, much like the 575M and 550. Performance on the 612 and 575M is virtually identical, with the 612's extra hp and extra weight giving near identical acceleration figures to the 575M according to Ferrari. Cornering will favor the shorter wheelbase, lighter weight and wider wheels (8.5" F, 10.5" R vs 8" F, 10" R) on the 575M. Braking with steel brakes is similar, the 612 having larger brakes (345 mm F, 330 mm R) compared to the lighter 575M with 330 mm F and 310 mm R. Far more 612s have CCM brakes with the HGTC package, optional availability on F133H (HGT2) optional) 612s, and Sessanta and OTO standard fitment. HGTC 575Ms are rare and the only CCM braked 575Ms, and have larger CCM brakes (398 mm F, 360 mm R) vs the 612's 380 mm F and 360 mm rear brakes.

Again speaking in generalities, the 575M and 612 do not normally compete because of the 2+2 seating in the latter. Buyers of one rarely consider the other. Bob would not consider a 575M and I would not consider a 612. Not what we need.

 

I have always wondered how much more sporty a 575 is compared to a 612. Can someone who has driven both opine on the subject? Fiorano Lap time of a 612 is 1.30.5, which is a second quicker than that of the 575 (actually 0.5 seconds quicker than 360 too)!

 

Bumping an old thread.
I bought a 612 OTO HGT2 in Jan 2018. It was built in April of 2008. To me, it is too special for a daily driver so I bought a fairly standard 2004 575 for that duty.
They are different and I Like them both but the front/mid engine layout of the 612 makes it more balanced. I think they are essentially the same in a straight line but the612 will win on a race track hands down.
The smaller 575 handles the rigors of urban driving better and I paid about $50K less to buy it.

 

Too many options on both models to really make general statements on how they would handle at racetracks. 575Ms have FHP and HGTC handling and braking packages and the 612 had HGTS, HGTC, and HGT2 handling packages and optional CCMs. With stock wheels on the 612, it is definitely underwheeled and undertired for the racetrack with half inch narrower wheels than a 575M and around 500 extra pounds of weight. 599 wheels in the rear would likely help. The Fiorano times quoted on the 575M were made in 2002 (on 18" wheels) and those of the 612 probably in late 2004 (likely with 18" F, 19" R wheels), and both had numerous updates after those times were set. None of the handling packages and wider wheels and tires were available when the 575M and 612 were tested. Lots of variables including the huge difference in wheelbases (2500 mm vs 2950 mm).

 

Addressing Melanzane’s OP point about prices. There is a big delta between 612 types with late OTOs asking (don’t know about fetching) more than double early cars, all with F1. Interestingly also here we see a gated manual 612 priced below F1 OTOs albeit different mileages.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/ferrari/612
It seems that while early 612s are competing with 456s, late OTO ones may be seen as a positive alternative to not always loved FFs. But these are all asking prices.
I really enjoyed the 612 to drive. As a gated 575 owner, I can say the performance difference was marginal, in terms of the nimbleness of the 575. But you only need to look at a Daytona and a 365 GTC4 price differential to see that four seat Ferraris underperform their two seat siblings, even if they may be as good or better cars.

 

It is hard to see 612 prices dropping very much more. The engine itself (assuming good condition and low mileage) is worth $50K (per 2 dealers I spoke with).