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  1. Zaza

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    f-register wrong ! (F1)
    you can include 146539, see my above post dated Nov 7
     
  2. Bas Jaski

    Bas Jaski Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Are all those of one owner? Or just friends' get together.
     
  3. 635CSI

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    I thought the clip of the 599 manual being driven around Monaco was very interesting.
    I had been told that the Enzo derived V12 and the stick were an unhappy marriage, as the engine was designed for an F1 transmission from the outset.
    Yet the car appeared to be easy and comfortable to drive, not that different from my late lamented 575M manual.
    Perhaps even better in town than many F1 boxes !
     
  4. G. Pepper

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    There was a thread here years ago about a guy who test drove a manual 599 and hated it. Something like Manual 599 Just Walk Away, IIRC.
     
  5. werewolf

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    Lots of debate and commentary, mostly from those who have not driven the car.

    I've owned two (2) manual trans 599s, including the second-to-last one made.

    The issue is this: the flywheel is very light-weight. This means 2 things: the car revs VERY easily, and it also stalls VERY easily on pull-out (less flywheel momentum). Bottom line: pulling-out with finesse requires some practice. But i can promise you this: it's WAY easier to drive than an F40! (of which i've also owned and driven 2)

    One more thing: check the sales records for the miles driven, on most manual-trans 599s. SOMEBODY has been driving and enjoying these wonderful machines!

    Lesson: don't believe everything you read online.
     
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  6. Zaza

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    Just a friends' get together reunion only for 599 ( excepted a F12). I dream to organise one on a bigger scale somewhere in Europe !
     
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  7. Bas Jaski

    Bas Jaski Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Still cool nontheless ;)
     
  8. Zarathustra

    Zarathustra Formula Junior

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    [QUOTE="Zaza, post: 146491030
    you can include 146539, see my above post dated Nov 7[/QUOTE]

    If 146539 is an original factory manual, it appears to be the first. Black interior?

    Latest updated original factory manual 599 registry:
    146539 Giallo/Black? (Euro)
    148702 Black/Black (Euro)
    149311 Titanio met/Blu (Euro)
    149428 one-off Zagato re-body (from video above)
    150332 Red/Black (Euro)
    150335 Black/Tan (Euro RHD)
    150338 Red/Tan
    150345 Black/Black
    150346 Red/Black
    150549 Black/Black
    150551 Silverstone/Tan
    150620 Red/Black
    150621 Black/Black
    150861 Silverstone/Black
    150863 Black/Black
    150866 Blue Tdf/Grey
    151006 Black/Black (Euro RHD)
    151275 Black/Black
    151564 Red/Black (Euro)
    151849 Red/Tan
    151850 Blue/Tan
    152365 Rubino/Tan
    152366 Red/Tan
    152969 Silverstone/Tan (Euro)
    152979 Red / Tan
    153027 Silverstone/Tan
    153378 Red/Crema
    153722 Red/Black (Euro)
    153876 Silverstone/Tan
    156243 Titanio met/Tan (Euro)
    156616 Silverstone/Tan
    157523 Black/Charcoal (Euro)
    157988 Green/Black (Euro)
    158461 Fiorano Rosso/tan
    159182 Blue/Red (Castriota's one-off?)
    159626 Red/Tan
    159976 Silver/Red-black
    160180 Blu Mirabeau/Tan (Euro)
    162942 Pozzi/Tan
    162945 Blu Tdf/Blue (Euro)
    164473 Black/Black (Euro)
    166146 Blu Pozzi/Black (Euro)
    166663 Vinaccia/Tan (Euro)
    166986 Blu Mirabeau/? (Euro)
    167583 Titanio/Grey (Euro)
    167772 Black/Tan
    167984 Red/Black (Euro)
    170628 Black/ Black
    172283 Rubino/Tan
    182296 Black/beige
    182599

    Total: 51
    21 Euro & 30 USA
     
  9. Sturm59

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    Hi,

    It's very easy to check if a manual 599 is original or converted. Do you know how can you check?
    I'm the Giallo Modena manual 599's owner

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  10. Sturm59

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  11. Sturm59

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    I only have Ferraris with 3 pedals: I can't use the F1 system;). Furthermore, manual and F1 Ferraris (same models) are very different...
     
  12. Zarathustra

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    The yellow manual is quite stunning. Thank you for posting photos!

    152979 is now on Ebay (no affiliation):
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-Ferrari-599-GTB-Fiorano-Manual/183790255998?hash=item2acac0bf7e:g:wKgAAOSwYpVcbKX-&vxp=mtr&frcectupt=true

    Updated 599 Manual List:
    146539 Giallo/Dark-Gray (Euro)
    148702 Black/Black (Euro)
    149311 Titanio met/Blu (Euro)
    149428 one-off Zagato re-body (from video above)
    150332 Red/Black (Euro)
    150335 Black/Tan (Euro RHD)
    150338 Red/Tan
    150345 Black/Black
    150346 Red/Black
    150549 Black/Black
    150551 Silverstone/Tan
    150620 Red/Black
    150621 Black/Black
    150861 Silverstone/Black
    150863 Black/Black
    150866 Blue Tdf/Grey
    151006 Black/Black (Euro RHD)
    151275 Black/Black
    151564 Red/Black (Euro)
    151849 Red/Tan
    151850 Blue/Tan
    152365 Rubino/Tan
    152366 Red/Tan
    152969 Silverstone/Tan (Euro)
    152979 Red / Tan
    153027 Silverstone/Tan
    153378 Red/Crema
    153722 Red/Black (Euro)
    153876 Silverstone/Tan
    156243 Titanio met/Tan (Euro)
    156616 Silverstone/Tan
    157523 Black/Charcoal (Euro)
    157988 Green/Black (Euro)
    158461 Fiorano Rosso/tan
    159182 Blue/Red (Castriota's one-off?)
    159626 Red/Tan
    159976 Silver/Red-black
    160180 Blu Mirabeau/Tan (Euro)
    162942 Pozzi/Tan
    162945 Blu Tdf/Blue (Euro)
    164473 Black/Black (Euro)
    166146 Blu Pozzi/Black (Euro)
    166663 Vinaccia/Tan (Euro)
    166986 Blu Mirabeau/? (Euro)
    167583 Titanio/Grey (Euro)
    167772 Black/Tan
    167984 Red/Black (Euro)
    170628 Black/ Black
    172283 Rubino/Tan
    182296 Black/beige
    182599

    Total: 51
    21 Euro & 30 USA
     
  13. Metastable

    Metastable Formula Junior

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    So how do you check between factory original and conversion manuals? Thanks
     
  14. Sturm59

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    #164 Sturm59, Apr 30, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2019
    It's very easy and you only have to check the chassis type.

    The 599 GTB has F141 ABE for F1 models or F141 ABM for manual models.

    As well, a 430 Coupé (not spider) has F131 EBE for F1 or F131 EBM for manual

    A 612 Scaglietti has F137 ALE for F1 or F137 ALM for manual.

    So, if you find a 599 F141 ABE with a stick, it's not a factory original manual 599 but an after sale conversion.

    For exemple, my manual 599:

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  15. Sturm59

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    #165 Sturm59, Apr 30, 2019
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    Thank you :)

    I also thank you for your thread because I now know that my manual 599 is the only factory manual giallo ever produced and also the first one according to the list :rolleyes:
     
  16. Zaza

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  17. Metastable

    Metastable Formula Junior

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    Thanks for the clarification!
     
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  18. Sturm59

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    #168 Sturm59, Apr 30, 2019
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  19. Sturm59

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    You're welcome.

    Second detail, you can also check the clutch pedal. But you must check BOTH, chassis type and clutch.

    If the clutch pedal has been molded, the car MAY be a factory original manual.

    If the pedal has been CNC machined, the car has been converted for sure. Ferrari only use molded pedals.
     
  20. Sturm59

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  22. Zaza

    Zaza Karting

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    What is not appreciated ( by me at last ) is that the seller never mentioned on eBay or at the garage this is a conversion, you got to read between the lines....
     
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  23. Zarathustra

    Zarathustra Formula Junior

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    Thank you for the chassis information!
    So, I'm going to go with the standard practice and only list 599 manuals that came out of the factory.
    Dealer conversions should be clearly identified and the purveyors of 152979 should be perfectly transparent.

    Updated 599 Manual List:
    146539 Giallo/Dark-Gray (Euro)
    148702 Black/Black (Euro)
    149311 Titanio met/Blu (Euro)
    149428 one-off Zagato re-body (from video above)
    150332 Red/Black (Euro)
    150335 Black/Tan (Euro RHD)
    150338 Red/Tan
    150345 Black/Black
    150346 Red/Black
    150549 Black/Black
    150551 Silverstone/Tan
    150620 Red/Black
    150621 Black/Black
    150861 Silverstone/Black
    150863 Black/Black
    150866 Blue Tdf/Grey
    151006 Black/Black (Euro RHD)
    151275 Black/Black
    151564 Red/Black (Euro)
    151849 Red/Tan
    151850 Blue/Tan
    152365 Rubino/Tan
    152366 Red/Tan
    152969 Silverstone/Tan (Euro)
    153027 Silverstone/Tan
    153378 Red/Crema
    153722 Red/Black (Euro)
    153876 Silverstone/Tan
    156243 Titanio met/Tan (Euro)
    156616 Silverstone/Tan
    157523 Black/Charcoal (Euro)
    157988 Green/Black (Euro)
    158461 Fiorano Rosso/tan
    159182 Blue/Red (Castriota's one-off?)
    159626 Red/Tan
    159976 Silver/Red-black
    160180 Blu Mirabeau/Tan (Euro)
    162942 Pozzi/Tan
    162945 Blu Tdf/Blue (Euro)
    164473 Black/Black (Euro)
    166146 Blu Pozzi/Black (Euro)
    166663 Vinaccia/Tan (Euro)
    166986 Blu Mirabeau/? (Euro)
    167583 Titanio/Grey (Euro)
    167772 Black/Tan
    167984 Red/Black (Euro)
    170628 Black/ Black
    172283 Rubino/Tan
    182296 Black/beige
    182599

    Total: 50
    21 Euro & 29 USA
     
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