What are people paying for the 599's now?
By "a little bit more" - is that a "better deal" or "more than $160,000"? Don't need specifics, just trying to follow the market. Best
Money, like toilet paper, should never be wasted. Why some of you gentlemen (ladies) cannot be patient I will never understand. I have owned several Ferraris and I have never succumbed to the hype. Can you do something better with $160,000? I can! Talk to me about a 430 in two years. While there will invariably be crying and gnashing of teeth about the 599GTB, I will continue to enjoy my 575M. Later, when I see a 599 I like, at the right price, and with the right options, I will buy it. Bob Hope and Bing Crosby both died wealthy and both had everything they wanted. I'll get my 599. Cheers!
and the entire time everyone enjoying their 599s will be laughing at you because they HAD the 160k, and it meant NOTHING to them.
If you are talking "Wealthy" as in you don't need to work and have enough money to last forever living very well, then the premium on a 599 is chump change. The fact that these cars are fetching those kind of prices and Enzos are still getting over a million (and $1.4 for the black one sold by Wynn Las Vegas recently) proves the point. There are plenty of "wealthy" people out who really don't care one way or the other what the price is. If they want it they''ll get it. Some of these same people spend the premium amount (around $250K at its highest) on personal jet charters every quarter. It's really relatively immaterial to them. There are less than 50 599's delivered in the US to date and very few of those have been flipped so we are down to maybe 10 cars that have been resold. There are more wealthy people in a single block in Bel Air CA who can afford it. If you can't afford it (the premium) you probably can't afford a 599 at MSRP plus out the door expenses ($340k) anyway.
Laughing at him? What's there to laugh at? His logic makes total sense and it's that type of thinking that helped get him to where he's at today, as well as being able to stay there. You keep thinking the way you do and you'll still be using "gansta" and "supdog" handles 20 years from now when you're scraping up cab fair anywhere you can find it.
both points are 100% true and only relevant to the individual. theres no logic in suggesting your view is relevant to anyone but yourself! for a man of lesser $ (or simply less dependant on having the latest and greastest) it makes more sense to wait but for the cashed up man, or for those who simply MUST have a 599 NOW....price is simply a formality.
Wow guys very broad spectrum of thoughts and logic. The only reason I am selling the car is because I would rather keep my Enzo vs the 599. I originally bought the car for my father and he really did not seem that thrilled about the car. I am trying to get him into the cars more but in my point of view you are either a car person or not . I will keep you guys posted to see what it brings. I wish I was fortunate enogh to get the car at list but we were not. Looking towards the Veyron end of next month.
"I originally bought the car for my father and he really did not seem that thrilled about the car. I am trying to get him into the cars more but in my point of view you are either a car person or not ." Reminds me of my father - in the early 90s, I took him for a ride in my new Porsche. His reaction: "well, I can see why someone would want something like that." He was so impressed by the Porsche experience that he ran out and bought a Town Car.
Absolutely, the OP should take the money and run. Or take the money and buy a true classic Ferrari. You can always buy another 599 later when people get bored of them, and the car will be in production, and probably improved, and at MSRP, over the next few years. Definitely enjoy your 575M. IMO, it's a more appealing car anyway. (And yes, I've seen two 599's in the metal...)
I traded my 575M for a Superamerica, which is essentially the same car, albeit improved with the HGTC package and the wonderful glass folding roof. I love the car and enjoy driving it, but the driving dynamics relative to the 599 are very noticably inferior. In a world without the 599 to compare against, the SA is a wonderful GT. It cruises effortlessly at high speeds and can be very quick when you need it to be. I replaced the so-called Sport Exhaust with an exhaust from X-OST that burbles and pops and splutters, which really makes the 575 sound menacing, but the stock exhaust on the 599 is just perfect in its balance of volume and tone. The F1 transmission is the most obvious area where the 599 is clearly a generation advanced from the system in the SA. I was out in the SA today and when I was walking back to the car after lunch it looked a little dated, kinda slab-sided and not as voluptuous as the 599. I think that the front of the SA is better conceived and realized than the 599 but the rest of the 599 is really beautiful, especially the rear haunches which are modern yet evocative of the 250 SWB. Having said all of that I'm delighted to have them both and there is honestly not enough money on offer from anyone to make me part with either one.
When younger I "saved", as I got older it occurred to me that life boils down to time or money. If you have no money you spend time, if you have money time does not need to be wasted. Those who wait usually regret it. The deal is lost or the item no longer avaialable. Even if you can buy what you wanted (years ago) it is often less thrilling than doing it at exactly the right time. How many times have people gone back to get something they could have bought only to find it no longer available? We regret more what we did NOT do than what we do. To me, the choice is simple, look at your bank account or drive your car. Why wait if you don't have to wait? However, not everyone has the luxury of buying what/when they want. For those who do, they do not buy as many things, but they do buy what they want, when they want it. Money is unnecessary except for what it can buy. Best
If you value styling (as perceived by yourself) over dynamics then go ahead and buy/keep the 575. In my opinion though,the questionable "better looks" of 575 does not overcome the superior dynamics of 599. In the end it comes down to what is the motivation of a Ferrari buyer,to get a pretty car or a superior performer.
At first I thought you were saying that you were getting rid of the SA! Good to find out that you are keeping her. I have always thought she was a beautiful car.
