599 vs Mclaren SLR (video)

BTW: Given your style of argumentation ("fantasy brain", "magic eyes", etc.) I am under the impression that you might suffer from a little inferiority complex as far as Ferrari is concerned... If you applied at your dealer you might even get one. Your current frustration about the superior performance of the 599GTB might end after you have taken delivery of one

 

You don't know me, so save the generalizations. As an FYI, if you did know me, you might realize that I like all brands of exotics, INCLUDING Ferrari. I have owned Ferrari's, Lambo's, Porsche's, etc, etc, and if I wanted a 599, I'd happily buy one. Frankly, my posts in this thread have nothing to do with Ferrari, but rather have to do with people like yourself that are severely delusional a car that they have a boner for loses a race. You state that a magazine test holds more weight than the video upon which this thread is based, which is beyond laughable. It's funny that you should mention inferiority complex, considering your denial of the validity of this video.

 

Oh, I get it now. I looked at "mksgr's" profile, and it says "599 on order". That explains it. LOL. It seems the inferiority complex lies within the accuser in this case, as you seem to be miffed that the SLR and CGT are shown on video as being faster than the 599. Oh, and I hate to tell you this, but there is a video by the same guys being released showing an LP 640 Lambo spanking the 599 as well. If you like the 599, that's fine. It is a great car, and you will enjoy it. But realize that there are faster cars out there, and don't be a whiner about it and try to blame the driver. What will happen if you lose to an SLR or CGT or LP640 while you are driving? ;-)

 

It is always nice to have some extreme minority opionions represented in a discussion board. That's why I welcome your posts very much. They make life more enjoyable, or laughable to use your vocabulary )))))

 

Your style of argumentation tells a lot about your character...

 

"Extreme minority opinions"? Really.

And just to clarify, that minority opinion is:

That the video is more conclusive that the 599 is not as quick as the SLR (or CGT, as in another video), than comparing individual magazine times for each of the 599 and SLR.

And your opinion is that:

Individual magazine tests are more valid than a one-on-one race (two times in a row). Bearing in mind that these individual magazine tests take place in different parts of the world, under different circumstances, in different ambient temperatures.

If your opinion is valid, why then do races even happen? Why not just race on paper?

Seeing as you feel that my opinion is the minority here, I welcome anyone else to state their opinion.

 

You know nothing about my character, and I could frankly care less what your opinion of my character is. No need to get pissy because your future car isn't as fast as an SLR. Let me know what happens when you get your 599 and race an SLR. You shouldn't have any trouble finding an SLR to race in Germany, should you?

 

Actually, some of the above magzine test results were derived in a one-on-one comparison of SLR and 599GTB, thus environmental conditions etc. were identical in those tests. You can identify the one-on-one tests in the above list if you compare the magzine names and the dates I included.

 

If you don't care what I think of your character then there is no need for your above post...

 

If you didn't care that your future car is slower than a 599, then you wouldn't be making up excuses for the results of the video...

 

Those tests used the same press car that Ferrari provided ("ringer"). The cars you see in the videos are PRODUCTION cars. NOT hand-selected or prepared by the factory specialists, regular production cars that are sold to customers. That is the real world, not magazine tests. Remember when the F430 was almost as fast as an Enzo? Yeah, exactly.

 

You are boring.....

 

How witty...

(and, just checked his profile -- another future 599 owner in denial. You guys should start a support group. LOL)

 

Yawn....

P.S.: Maybe we will also buy Gallardo's if we should ever face financial difficulties in the future and have to sell the 599. For the time being we prefer the 599 although your powerful arguments made it perfectly clear that the 599 is quite inferior to Lp640, Gallardo, F430, 997TT, SLR, CGT, (did I forget some other cars...) Of course we should have noticed that at once...

 

i think he's just trying to say the slr etc is faster not better than the 599.

Clax
"If you like the 599, that's fine. It is a great car, and you will enjoy it. But realize that there are faster cars out there"

 

These blahblah v 599 threads combine dumb and tedious with a huge helping of "I need attention" inflammatory. Never drag raced, but I can road race - bring your SLR to the track, and I'll bring my 599, how about that? Or, as I imagine, do none of the folks here criticizing the 599 actually OWN the other cars mentioned?

Edit: I like the LP640, SLR, CGT, etc. but chose the 599 instead. Who cares?

 

I think you hit the nail on the head as to ownership of the cars involved.
I have no feelings one way or the other regarding ownership - I just think it's immature and ridiculous for anyone to go to war over which car is faster/better/lighter/prettier/tighter etc etc, but it is especially galling to find the level of animosity that emerges especially when the mud-flingers really have no investment in the outcome other than to see who can shout louder or type the bigger insult.

I love my 599 and I drive it whenever I can. I wouldn't drag race it simply because that's not what floats my boat. I also think the SLR is nothing special for me - an SL55 feels just as fast and is lighter feeling (an opinion that has evolved over several test drives as a local dealer has tried very hard to get me to buy one) and I love my CGT for very different reasons relative to the 599. As an aside, I very subjectively, think that the CGT is a better track car than the Enzo and If I had to choose between the 599 and the CGT for a track day, the CGT gets the nod. For any other driving use however, the 599 is sublime and magnificent!
It's all very personal and subjective and what anyone else thinks really means absolutely nothing to me, especially the outcome of a non-professionally produced and non-objectively measured video race.

 

So your gonna believe the BS thats found in the magazines which could be 50/50 of being right or wrong or you want some hardcore facts?.

Ill gladly see a video first before reading some bullsh!t magazine that someone could easly "Misprint" something if you know what i mean.

 

I wonder if the 599 will beat the SLR around the top gear track? Or perhaps the LP640? Anyone care to wager?

 

You just anwswered your own question.

 

You know what F**k Top Gear. That show is 100% pure BS.

 

Anyone care?

 

"I just think it's immature and ridiculous for anyone to go to war over which car is faster/better/lighter/prettier/tighter etc etc,"

I agree, but it never ends.


"If I had to choose between the 599 and the CGT for a track day, the CGT gets the nod."

Owners seem to love their CGTs, and I regret not having ordered one when I had the chance. I'll bet it's a fantastic track day car.


"It's all very personal and subjective and what anyone else thinks really means absolutely nothing to me, especially the outcome of a non-professionally produced and non-objectively measured video race."

Amen!

 

I think that the SLR would be quicker than both around the Nordschleife......

 

Sounds great. And if my self esteem shatters and my manhood shrinks to the size of yours, I'll run out and buy a 599 and 10 more cars. My ownership of the Gallardo (or any of my other current or previous cars) has nothing to do with my financial assets. I drive what I like, at any price range. People who know me know that as a fact.

Contrary to what you seem to think, my posts are not knocking the 599. My posts are knocking people like YOU who cannot face reality that their car might not be as fast as another and need to come up with weak excuses. We are talking about f*cking cars here! Big deal. Been there, done that. I've owned tons of cars, and there is always something faster, more expensive, prettier, etc. Get over yourself. My points are not slagging the 599, they are slagging your fragile self esteem.

You seem to severely be missing my points, as your reaction is clouded by your insecurity surrounding your own future ownership of the 599. And by the way, if you are such a "big shot" (Gallardo is too cheap for you), why are you still waiting for a 599? Most of my friends that wanted 599's already have them.

If you still insist that a 599 is faster than an SLR, then prove it! When you get your car, go out and stage your own race. It shouldn't be too difficult to find an SLR to race. Video tape it and post it here!