599 waiting list

Short answer: Not going to happen

There is a 3 year waiting list for this car. Only way you can get one now for close to $300-350k is to buy a used up Panamerican car with 25,000 miles on it, they will be at the RM auctions in Maranello

 

probably not. do a search, there has been plenty of discussion here about this...

 

Wish you luck on what seems like a reasonable request. Welcome to the wacky world of Fcars!

 

Wacky it is indeed....

 

Move to Europe.

 

TO get on the list in the US, you need to buy a used car , preferably a hard sell like a 575 or a 612 . Then they will take your deposit and make you wait up to 3 years .

 

whether or not you have ever owned a ferrari before, it might be a good idea to start on something a little less powerful and valuable than a 599...unless you are some kind of extremely experienced driver of course....but i would at the very least, start with a 550 for example, and see if you still like the whole ferrari experience in a year...just a suggestion.

 

wait for a recession....maybe, just maybe then you can get one

 

Emphasis on "maybe"

 

I don't know, but when you figure it out, could you please let me know so that I can apply the same technique to purchase an Enzo for $600k -- thanks!

 

Very recently a dealer in So Cal sold a 599 for $570,000.00, and a dealer in Florida sod one for $599,000.00. There is not a chance in hell that anyone whom has never owned a Ferrari before will get a 599 at anything even close to msrp....and they should not be able to!

 

and which dealers were those? i find those prices hard to believe

 

then go to So Cal or South Florida and try and buy a 599 that is for sale on the showroom floor...that is if you can find one. You will be amazed.

 

Motorcars has another one,quite reasonable...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-Ferrari-599-GTB-Fiorano-F1_W0QQitemZ110130955787QQihZ001QQcategoryZ6212QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

Yes, $525,000 is better than $570,000.

 

The 599 phenomenon is simply market forces at work. Ferrari have produced a car that has been almost universally praised in road tests and I have personally not found a single owner of a 599 who is in any way unhappy with the car. Add all of that to an extremely limited supply of US version cars and you get a situation where the demand, certainly in the US, outstrips the availability of cars, new or used, by a factor of several times. This leads, quite naturally, in free markets, to prices higher than the car was originally sold at by Ferrari and its dealers.

There should be no suprise then that in the only, somewhat regulated portion of the 599 market - new car sales at the dealer level, that there will be preferences awarded to those customers who in the past have shown loyalty to the dealer.
It really has very little to do with money - it has everything to do with being the preferred customer because you have done the sort of business that keeps your dealer profitable. I'm certain that very few of the original buyers of the 599 bought it from the dealer with the view to making a quick profit of a couple of hundred thousand dollars - the reality is that, to a preferred 599 buyer the amount of the potential profit is really not meaningful, certainly not meaningful enough to warrant harming a dealer relationship that continues to provide the opportunity to acquire new Ferraris before anyone else.

That is why there are really very few 599's on the resale market - most of the original buyers are holding onto theirs, at least for the the short term.

It is also the reason that it will be next to impossible, in the US anyway, to buy a new 599 from an authorized dealer without any prior business relationship with that dealer. These relationships have been built and nurtured over many years - it would be a huge insult on the dealer's part to his existing and loyal customer base to sell on a first come, first served basis. I would be unhappy and my dealer over the years has derived a lot of profitable business from me that would potentially go away.

 

Right on and well said.

 

This is exactly it. I was having a nice conversation with some friends the other day who are car fans but I think dont fully understand and they wondered aloud about the 599 "how could someone leave the few hundred thousand on the table". I just said "you must be right" but I know that is not the case. I seriously doubt many people anywhere would behave any differently than the dealer behavior Alex above has described- its quite rational.

best regards,
Jerry

 

- No

 

one must not forget that times are currently good for the dealers. in years past, times were tougher. good long term clients are going to get treatment different than othan others, and for good reason. i am trying to work myself into this track. i don't blame my dealer, rather, especially considering it's ferrari, i see my opportunity to "earn" my right.

i don't think any real dealer would screw it's long term customers. maybe i'm screwing myself by posting this, but i think i am not. who can fault a dealer for taking care of his customers when they took care of him during the slow times?

i agree with alex, dealer relationships are earned, not bought. in the long run, buyers and sellers aren't going to win by cheating each other, rather, by respecting each other, each will gain.

 

What will be quite hilarious, or sad rather, is if Ferrari decided to allow its dealers to sell their cars are whatever the market bears...and all this work to endear yourself to your dealer goes down the drain. Ouch

 

How do these cars end up back at the dealerships with a 250k premium ? We the consumer are required to sign a non-compete and sell the car back to the dealer at msrp. Now tell me what part of fair is that. We buy it, pay the sales tax and sell it back to the dealer and are not allowed to make a dollar. The reason for this is to get on the infamous wait list of the next great car. In my opinion its bullshi* and we the consumer take it. Yes i own ferraris and other makes but really the recent wave of bs is pushing me away from the horse. Just my opinion!

 

The assumption you have there is that the dealer is going to sell a long term and valued client a car at full market. Perhaps the dealer will actually sell the car at sticker for this client. Each relationship is unique.

best regards,
Jerry