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  1. maranello71

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    #1 maranello71, Sep 17, 2006
    I have the data from the FIRST OFFICIAL 599GTB TEST DRIVE, FULLY INSTRUMENTED:

    0-62 mph 3.47s
    0-100 mph 6.8s
    0-125 mph 10.4s
    1/4 mile 11.2s
    1Km 20.1s
    Top speed 332 Km/h

    THIS IS PHENOMENAL. This kind of acceleration puts to shame many so-called "ultra-cars" such as the Carrera GT or Mercedes SLR, which offer far less performance for much more money. Even the Enzo itself should feel threatened - I do not recall the top Ferrari being much quicker than the 599!

    Oh, and to all those who droned on for months about the boring "appliance-for-speed" 997 Turbo: you should have known it didn't have a snowball's chance in hell against the 599GTB. They are in a TOTALLY DIFFERENT CLASS.
     
  2. Tobias

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    #2 Tobias, Sep 17, 2006
    Holy cow that is fast. 0 - 100 in 6.8!
     
  3. Jason W

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    #3 Jason W, Sep 17, 2006
    Doesn't the 599 have the Enzo powerplant?
     
  4. WCH

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    #4 WCH, Sep 17, 2006
    Who performed the tests? Thanks for posting.
     
  5. maranello71

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    #5 maranello71, Sep 17, 2006
    Yes, that's the same engine. However, with 620BHP as opposed to 660, and with about 300Kg more weight AND a front-engined layout, I would have expected the Enzo to remain significantly faster. According to the magazine testers, the new gearbox and the new launch control system are responsible for this incredible result. Just 3 years of development since the Enzo came out, and already a "normal" production (and front-engined!) Ferrari can match its acceleration figures!

    Oh, and it's fast around the track too: on this magazine's test track, the 599GTB lapped 0.5s faster than the Gallardo SE and F430, both theoretically better "track cars" than the 599. Actually the 599 beats the Enzo's time around the same course!
     
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    #6 rpps, Sep 17, 2006
    indeed it does, but it is 611bhp vs the enzo's 660
     
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    #7 Ferrari 360 CS, Sep 17, 2006
    Amazing figures....perhaps something to do with the LC?
     
  8. mksgr

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    #8 mksgr, Sep 17, 2006
    Not quite. Just take a look at some additional performance figures:

    (in kph)

    0-200: 10.4s (as above)
    0-240: 15.3s
    0-260: 18.1s

    The superior performance continues in the higher speed range (where LC is no longer a factor to consider).
     
  9. MARQ

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    #9 MARQ, Sep 17, 2006
    Great specs; what a car! Thanks for sharing the info.
     
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    #10 absent, Sep 17, 2006
    Well,all these numbers are irrelevant,since Tiff thought of the car as a letdown and inferior to 430...
    What a self centered ,little dick.....
     
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    #11 3omar, Sep 17, 2006
    I think he was a bit intimidated that day with Schumacher on the track just before him and the Ferrari people telling him to get it over with quickly.
     
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    #12 absent, Sep 17, 2006
    Maybe...
    To me ,it looked more like he was pissed being forced to wait until Schumacher released the track.
     
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    #13 absent, Sep 17, 2006
    Amazing figures,who did the test though?
     
  14. frefan

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    #14 frefan, Sep 17, 2006
    holy ****!
     
  15. cmparrenzo

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    #15 cmparrenzo, Sep 17, 2006

    I had read 611hp as well in early publications, but the information provided at Ferrari's private introduction of the 599 at Pebble Beach in August quoted the hp at 620 as does all of Ferrari's official web sites.
     
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    #16 johnei, Sep 17, 2006
    Maybe the difference between SAE and DIN ratings?

    Also do people think the tires are partly responsible for the 599's performance?
     
  17. maranello71

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    #17 maranello71, Sep 18, 2006
    Hi, the source of this information is Italian magazine "Quattroruote", published since 1956 and arguably one of Europe's most authoritative automotive publications. The guys who do the test drives are not professional racing drivers, but they are highly trained drivers capable of extracting the best out of their cars, and they have an analytical process to evaluate handling, quality, comfort and other factors not only based on individual perceptions, but also backed by all kinds of measurements. These are serious guys.

    Their 2.5 Km racetrack is very good - many F.1 teams often book time there for private testing! Differences in temperature and grip (whether the track has just been washed off by rain or whether it's properly "rubbered") make results not always comparable, but here is what I have:

    599 GTB (August 2006): 1'16''810
    Carrera GT (June 2005): 1'17''349
    F430 F1 (June 2006): 1'17''373
    Enzo (June 2005): 1'17''448 (with fairly worn tires)
    Gallardo SE e-gear (June 2006): 1'17''814
    Viper (June 2006): 1'19''510
    Corvette Z06 (June 2006): 1'19''523
    Ford GT (June 2006): 1'19''810
    Murcielago (June 2005): 1'19''840
    Porsche 997 Turbo (June 2006): 1'19''963

    This comparison puts the results of the 599GTB in amazing perspective. Here is a car which (regardless of any other considerations) is at least on a par with the Enzo and Carrera GT on a racetrack! Here is a car that is 3 seconds a lap faster than the Porsche 997 turbo!

    Now I'm waiting to see what the Murcielago LP640 will do. Unless Lamborghini get scared by the 599's performance, and decide not to give a car to test... :)
     
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    #18 allegretto, Sep 22, 2006
    Since I already have a 599 on order and currently drive a 997 TT I want to believe the numbers with all my heart.

    But different days notwithstanding, a 430 outlapping an Enzo and within a couple of hundreths of a C-GT?

    Let me say that I always suspect magazine numbers since they appear inconsistant.

    But apparently it is not too much to say that the 599 should be "World Class" in every way!
     
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    #19 134282, Sep 22, 2006
    Holy **** is right...!!!
     
  20. kizdan

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    #20 kizdan, Sep 22, 2006
    I find that impossible to believe.
     
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    #21 dcl, Sep 24, 2006
    I'm also finding it very very difficult to believe the 599 can beat the Enzo and CGT around a track.

    In a stright line I can see it being competitive especially at higher speed as it's not a track car and doesnt need to make as much downforce thus it can get away with being more 'slippery' through the air.
     
  22. Kulstad

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    #22 Kulstad, Sep 24, 2006
    One thing: the test was made with semi-slick tyres it seems. That's the reason why the 599GTB was faster.

    Anyway, the Enzo is surely overpriced.
     
  23. mksgr

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    #23 mksgr, Sep 24, 2006
    The question is: how do you define overpriced?

    Looking at the resale values of the Enzo the car seems adequately priced if not offered too cheap by the factory...

    Also, the Enzo is THE performance car of the first decade of the new millenium. Such car cannot be cheap.

    I would rather argue that the 599GTB is priced fairly moderately...
     
  24. mksgr

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    #24 mksgr, Sep 24, 2006
    BTW: I will test drive the 599 in about two weeks time.

    I will try to post some test impressions in combination with some high-speed (Autobahn) performance figures.
     
  25. Kulstad

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    #25 Kulstad, Sep 24, 2006
    Well it's the market who defines the prices, I'm aware of that.

    This is a great decade for supercars. Carrera GT, Zonda, Koenigsegg, Enzo and a couple of others. Taking out of the equation the Veyron -- a used CGT, a C12S or the CCR are much more accessible than a Ferrari Enzo. One can argue they're all as outstanding as the Ferrari, and yet the difference in prices are remarkable.
     
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