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5xWDC the GREATEST OF ALL TIME?

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After winning his 5th WDC and taking record after record has Lewis The Hammer Hamilton is he the GOA

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  1. ktu

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    Lol the truth is Ham had surpassed Prost and anyone he ever raced against with wins and championships.
     
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  2. SimCity3

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    In pure statistics, yes.
     
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  3. furoni

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    I agree with all that, but despite the way keke won it, as a driver he was heads and shoulders above Hill, he was very, very talented indeed.
     
  4. furoni

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    I agree, wrong place...but i guess elton fans already knew it when they started this thread.
     
  5. ktu

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    Correct, we can't put them in the same car so this all we have to go by.
     
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  6. F2003-GA

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    :D:D:D
     
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  7. ago car nut

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    If Max doesn't get a competitive powered, car he will never win WDC.
     
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  8. cairns

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    No argument here- all true IMO.
     
  9. Jakuzzi

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    Sorry for the late reply, NO. If he were what you said he is he would exclusively choose males. By being fluid he can pick what he fancies at a particular time.

    Anyway, none of that should deter nor detract us from his driving achievements. It didn't matter over 25 years ago with Senna, it should not be an issue now.
     
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    D is the fourth letter in the English alphabet. #44 = D. D. ……………. :)
     
  11. Jakuzzi

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    In the driving talent department...………...
     
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  12. Terra

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    So according to your well-informed world (motorsports view), Senna was bisexual and Lewis is bisexual? Sounds as if you're stating such as an unequivocal fact.
     
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  13. WPOZZZ

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    Whenever someone becomes 8xWDC, I will say they are the greatest.
     
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  14. ATBNM3

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    No, he's surpassed him...
     
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  15. ATBNM3

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    No just against Vettel Raikkonen Alonso etc...
     
  16. Flavio_C

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    #166 Flavio_C, Nov 28, 2018
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    Excuse me, the GERMAN Rosberg was already a driver in the GERMAN team Mercedes. In 2013 Hamilton was fourth, Rosberg 6th. In 2014 Hamilton won by a large margin over Rosberg, as he did in 2015. Where in the whole world have you seen it as "fairly tight"?

    Hamilton arrvided very young in Mclaren, no F1 experience, but was at least on par in terms of talent with double-champion Alonso, you can't deny it. Sorry, if he was not very very talented, he wound't be able to do so. Also, did Alonso's team mate beat Schumacher with the same car?

    LOL! Hamilton beat Rosberg FAIR AND SQUARE not only in Mercedes but also in karting! Dino Chiesa is a guy that F1 teams trust to scout talents and he said reservedly many times that Hamilton was more talented than Rosberg.

    You are just nitpicking details in order to try to diminish Hamilton's incredible talent. Statistics and the opinion of other great F1 champions confirms that Hamilton can indeed be compared to Schumacher and Senna.

    I was an anti-Hamilton myself because I thought he was arrogant sometimes but now I'm cheering to see him at Ferrari in 2020. Vettel is not only inferior to Hamilton in terms of talent, but also commits too many stupid mistakes when he is under pressure.

    By the way, watch out Vettel being destroyed by Leclerc this year.

    The best honorable exit for Vettel is to have a friendly chat with Lewis and suggest seat swap for 2020.
     
  17. Flavio_C

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    If I were going to use Furoni's nitpicking criteria to define the greatest driver of all time, I would say it is Nelson Piquet:

    1 - the guy won 2 WDC in a humble Brabham against the likes of Ferrari, Mclaren, Williams, and won his third title when Williams was desperately trying to make an English champion (Mansell).
    2 - He helped developing and was the first champion of the turbo era, the active suspension era, etc.
    3 - He was world champion against Lauda, Prost, Senna, Rosberg, etc...
    4 - He came from a jungle full of monkeys and won the English F3 championship speaking no English, being his own mechanic and truck driver.
    5 - He was faster than Lauda and Senna in the same car.
    6 - He also pulled some incredible wins out of nowhere in his final years at Benetton.
    7- He hid the toilet paper when he realized that Mansell was stopping several times during a practice session because was suffering from diarrhea. :D:D:D
     
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  18. SimCity3

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    Rosberg V Hamilton at Mercedes:

    Front Row Starts:
    Hamilton 57
    Rosberg 57

    Points:
    Hamilton 1334
    Rosberg 1195


    In terms of outright speed it was considerably closer than Bottas / Hamilton.
     
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  19. ktu

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    Schumi vs Rosberg at Mercedes

    Points:
    Rosberg 324
    Schumi 197

    ( Yes Schumi was still competative, No i won't sweep it under the rug )
     
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  20. furoni

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    Nelson was a great driver, no question about it, far better then elton
     
  21. furoni

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    Elton tested more than an entire championship during winter, in fact, he was the driver alongside jacques villeneive that did more kms in pre season testing! So he was more than ready. He already knew the team for years, so the fact that he wax a rookie must be taken with a pinch of salt. We also know that alonso was never known for neing the fastest driver out there.
    Elton fans can believe what they want, that wont make make him a top ten driver for anyone who actualy knows someyhing about f1 history
     
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  22. ktu

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    Does Ross Brawn know much about F1?
    http://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/21248007/ross-brawn-lewis-hamilton-one-all-greats-f1
     
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  23. SimCity3

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    The old man had come out of retirement, but if it makes you feel better crack on
     
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  24. ktu

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    #174 ktu, Nov 28, 2018
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    Stop making excuses, Fangio won a championship at 46. If Schumi was great, complete, teambuilder, knows the mechanics wife's name etc and all the other things you all say about him he would have came back beat Rosberg, and won a couple races.
     
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