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612 Brake Hell

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  1. DKurtaz

    DKurtaz Karting

    Aug 12, 2019
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    Hello All

    I was informed by my Ferrari dealer (who has always been super great), that my brake caliper pistons have eroded (pictures they sent clearly show this).
    My issue is that I am told that the pistons are not available as an individual part and that the whole Brembo caliper needs replacing, taking 5 months to build (I should add that the carbon discs are fine).

    A little bit surprising to say the least.
    Repair costs aside, 5 months to fix brakes!! Despite loving the car, my Ferrari ownership is over as brakes are commodity components and life is too short unless there is another path forward.

    Any ideas apart from Eurospares etc..

    Thanks.
     
  2. Nospinzone

    Nospinzone F1 Veteran

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    What are they quoting you as a repair cost?

    I'm guessing a competent independent could do the job much faster and much cheaper. However, Ferrari would void your warranty. Oh wait, a 612, ......... you don't have a warranty!
     
  3. Chicko

    Chicko Formula 3


    Talk to some aftermarket brake specialists. Their is some upgrade kits.

    https://www.bigbrakes4u.co.uk/product/brembo-ferrari-612-scaglietti-front-380mm-6pot-pot-conversion-brake-kit/
     
  4. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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  5. DZ-96

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    There are tons of new original brake calipers in different colors available
    Front and rear, in black i found all 4
    Available for 380 € each from a guy who sells F parts
    No experience with the guy, but you should have the security from paypal/ebay

    search for "ferrari 612 bremssattel"

    Daniel
     
  6. DKurtaz

    DKurtaz Karting

    Aug 12, 2019
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    Thanks All- I will give Hill Engineering a try.
     
  7. bamaman

    bamaman Formula Junior

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    What effect on braking did you notice while driving with the calipers in that condition?
     
  8. DKurtaz

    DKurtaz Karting

    Aug 12, 2019
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    Not noticeable...
     
  9. DKurtaz

    DKurtaz Karting

    Aug 12, 2019
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    Has anyone experience with the Hill Engineering pistons?
     
  10. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Tons of folks, but mostly V8 owners.
     
  11. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I have installed a few sets. It is unforgivable that Ferrari used such garbage brakes. The plated aluminum pistons cannot take normal element exposure without disintegrating. Absolute trash. They were intended for a race car, not a street car. They have no external seals to even try to protect the pistons from exposure.
    Who cares if it make the calipers a few ounces lighter? It is a street car and no one is capable of noticing the difference.
     
  12. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Yet. They will get bad enough the pistons cannot retract and the brakes will drag worse and worse.
     
  13. Wayne Forza

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    We deal with several brake companies. I have no problem checking for you and seeing what I can come up with if you're interested.
     
  14. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Nothing to check for. Put Hill Engineering stainless pistons in them and put the Brembo aluminum pistons in the garbage where they belong.
     
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  15. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Tons of folks, but mostly V8 owners.
     
  16. Wayne Forza

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    Good news! Glad you got it sorted out!!
     
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  17. DKurtaz

    DKurtaz Karting

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    Thanks for the offer- I was in contact with a very helpful lady at Hill Eng and order placed for everything I need.
     
  18. Wayne Forza

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    Glad to hear that you got what you need!
     
  19. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Corvettes had the same problem, only it was the caliper itself that corroded. Be glad you do not need the calipers sleeved like the Corvettes.
     
  20. Skidkid

    Skidkid F1 Veteran
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    Ouch, that would hurt.
     
  21. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Stainless Steel Brake built their business doing that. As I understand it they no longer repair brakes. Liability got too high.
     
  22. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I think the Corvette problem was likely owners not changing brake fluid regularly. Sleeved 65-82 calipers are still available, but no telling who is doing it now. I put a set of the Stainless Steel Brake calipers on my father's 73 Corvette.
     
  23. DKurtaz

    DKurtaz Karting

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    To close this thread, the parts from Hill Engineering were fitted with my Ferrari dealer commenting that they were of exceptional quality. Thanks Hill Engineering!!!
     
  24. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I love a happy ending.
     
  25. JLF

    JLF Formula 3

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    Can u see if they are corroded by visually inspecting before the brakes start sticking??
     

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