612 running costs

I received permission to post this. I also was told I could post pricing, suggested myself that I round up to keep it vague, but in the end it was easier just to remove pricing altogether. Labor's negotiable. Parts are shoppable. You can extrapolate pricing. This is the suggested maintenance for a 612. I want to be clear though that FoW did NOT upsell me and in fact purposely saved me money telling me I didn't need cam seals after EIGHT years when they have them as part of the routine maintenance at six years. Sorry if the formatting isn't perfect. I spent a lot of time getting it this good.

1 YR / 5K PK-Labor IND-Labor
Oil & Fluid 1.5 1.75
Brake Fluid 1.2 1.5
SD3 Report 0.5 0.8
Preventive lube care 0.7 1.2
I-A 2 2.5
HR. 5.9 7.75


Part # Description Quantity Price Each Total Price
4840 Shell 5W40 12
206166 Oil Filter 2
DONAX Brake Fluid 1
10257060 Copper seal 1
10280060 Copper seal 1
TOTAL
Tax
Shop Supplies
Package total

3 YR / 15K Labor
Oil & Fluid 1.5 1.75
Timing Belts 22 24
Spark Plugs 6.8 7.6
Engine acc. Belts 1.2 1.5
Brake Fluid 1.2 1.5
A/C Freon 1.2 1.5
SD3 Report 0.5 0.8
Preventive lube care 0.7 1.2
I-A 2 2.5
HR. 37.1 42.35
Total $

Service Total=



Part # Description Quantity Price Each Total Price
4840 Shell 5W4 12
206166 Oil Filter 2
187744 Timing Belts 2
174954 Spark Plugs 12
201444 Alt / AC Belt 1
201456 P/S Belt 1
DONAX Brake Fluid 1
10257060 Copper seal 1
10280060 Copper seal 1
TOTAL
Tax
Shop Supplies $
Package total


6 YR / 30K Labor
Oil & Fluid 1.2 1.5
Timing Belts 43 45
Spark Plugs 6.8 7.6
Engine acc. Belts 1.2 1.5
GBX 5.1 5.5
Brake Fluid 1.2 1.5
Coolant 1.2 1.5
Air Filter 0.5 0.8
P.S. Fluid 0.4 0.6
Pollen Filters 0.3 0.4
A/C Freon 2 2.2
A/C Filter 0.5 0.9
F1 Clutch bleed 1.2 1.5
SD3 Report 0.5 0.8
Preventive lube care 0.7 1.2
I-A 2 2.5




HR. 67.8 75
Total $ #########

Service Total=

NOTE 43hrs
Reflects Cam
Seals Replacement


Part # Description Quantity Price Each Total Price
4840 Shell 5W40 12
206166 Oil Filter 2
6YR KIT Timing belts 1
174954 Spark Plugs 12
201444 Alt / AC Belt 1
201456 P/S Belt 1
4790 ShellGear Oil 9
DONAX Brake Fluid 1
Q1030002P Coolant 1
180935 Air Filter 2
4902 Donax TX 1
66855200 Pollen Filter 1
67085100 A/C Filter 1
5075 Tutela CS 1
10257060 Copper seal 1
10280060 Copper seal 1
10263460 Copper seal gbx 1
10261860 Copper seal gbx 1
174538 Radiator plug 1
174539 Radiator seal 1
TOTAL
Tax
Shop Supplies
Package total

 

I should have PDF'ed it. None of the formatting I did took.

 

On my 2008 612 OTO, since it has been out of warranty I have done a belt service, changed the battery, changed the oil every year, and I think that is it. It has been out of warranty for the last two years. Oh, and the rear tires.

Even in warranty, all I did was change the fuel level sensor, the phone microphone, and a few software updates.

I'd put that record up against any modern Mercedes.

 

And a proper comparison would have to be with an AMG, SL63 or such. I've got a master mechanic buddy who used to have to deliver the bad news to people who bought AMG's and BMW M's and such cheap and in need of service. I'm tickled pink I spent as little as I did sorting my 612 and every day it purrs prettier and prettier as the usage continually increases. I'm sure the 456 is a brilliant machine, no experience with it or the maintenance. But so far, I'm not seeing how the 612 is going to be anything but reasonable as Ferrari's go.

 

Bob, Don- I doubt the 612 will ever be as expensive to maintain as a 456/456M. No valves to adjust, more modern and reliable ECUs and injection/ignition COP system. Very reliable engine.

In the 5 years I have owned my 575M, the only repairs have been replacing the gas cap and the hood/bonnet gas struts and fixing the A/C panel (A/C panel repair cost about $15 total).

 

Ahh yes, BMW Ms. Service on those is astronomical, and the power train half life is well short of 5 years. This based on 3 different friends with Ms over the past few years. And if you thought MPGs on Ferrari V12s was less than desirable, the Ms race to the bottom.

 

It would be surprising and disappointing if the 456 and 612 where the same cost for maintenance. I would expect the 612 to be much less.

 

I am having my first biggish maintenance item on my manual 05. The clutch has a problem due to the fact the car was not driven for 8 months (stuck in storage before Sandy hit our shores, couldn't get the car out because battery had died). Hopefully less than $4-5k.

 

Reviewing Stickbreitling's post, looks like the ball joints and compressor were directly attributable to bad driving conditions. Makes me wonder about the power steering cable as well. That's a new one to me. That leaves us with normal consumables of filters, brakes and fuel from his post. Just keeping it real.

I will point out though that the tie rods are a consumable on these cars as well. Each model would seem to have it's weak points. But someone here posted a link to replacements at $600 a piece compared to $1500 at Ricambi, alas to late for me as I'd already purchased. But there was nothing in Stickbreitling's post that would scare me away from anything other than your roads over there. And then once on them, I'd probably get myself killed by accidentally driving on the right side anyway, so no matter.

My car should have been a rough example. It had been through seven owners in as many years. It had never had a belt service, ever. I'm sure every owner prior to me had every intention of deferring maintenance. Still, I did nothing but the expected maintenance to bring her up to date and she's purring like a kitten. I also received some damned good discounts on labor, did okay on parts, and came away not at all unhappy. I'll let you know in a couple years after I've doubled the mileage to 30,000 how it turned out, but I'm not seeing how these cars are in any way more problematic than any other.

 

One guy posted that he had some issues on a very early car, driven in rough conditions. A bunch of people posted that they have had very few, or no, problems.

I think you can find one guy who has major issues with just about any make of car (and really, stickbreitling's issues were not all that major). Scroll down and read some of the posts in the Mercedes section!

 

Agreed with the other posts. The aircon condenser was just plain bad luck on a gravel road (the guy who replaced it said he had just replaced one on a brand new Range Rover which had 300 miles on the clock - again piece of gravel fired a hole into it). I drive my car during the winter, so your ball joints may live longer if you don't drive in these conditions. The ones in my car were likely the originals, so not a bad lifespan of 8 yrs+. That discounts 3500 off the normal running costs.

The power steering cable has probably just deteriorated with age (given that my car is one of the first 612s to come off the production line) and at 300 ish pounds is a bargain.

I only needed an annual service during my first year of ownership, so very reasonable. If you get a car in good condition, you could probably get away with just 700 quid (indie servicing) a year, excluding fuel and insurance costs.

 

Seems like the 612 is really often used as a daily driver even during the winter time.
That is pretty amazing for a Ferrari don't you all think ?

Using the 456 as a daily driver and during the winter will surely tear a big hole in the owner's
pockets I think, all parts being maybe 10 years older than the 612s on average.

IMHO the least running costs can be had with a Ferrari 5-7 yrs. old.
The higher price one pays for a newer car is compensated by fewer and lower repair and maintenance costs.

 

Hopefully there's a mileage component and regular driving component to running costs. That's the bet I'm making on the 612.

Winter itself won't be a problem. Winter in some places begets potholes which would be.

 

Gas and tires, which are significant on the 612, will certainly be mileage related. The rest, not so much, in my opinion.

 

Oh, what I meant was that I'm hoping that driving often and far will make the car more reliable.

 

That seems to be the case with my Porsche 928's. Whenever they sit for extended periods, they develop an abundance of random issues, but when I drive them periodically, they are as reliable as a wood burning stove.

Hopefully the 612 will be the same.

 

Final damage over $7k as they replace the clutch as well as bearings. Not too nice on a $25k miles car. But they had to open it anyway to fix the original problem. Yet more $$ to add to hurricane Sandy tab...

 

Parts were $4k (including a bearing) and labor $3k.