'62 Maserati 5000GT

Do you know the owner from 103.042 ?
Best regards
Nico

 

YEs, its a car broker in the USA who purchased the car 3 years ago.

Ciao!
Walter

 

This picture was in account at 1988 in the magazine ,,Automobiles Classiques"
It was for sale by Heathmans à`Londres.
Have everyone history about this car ?

Best regards
Nicolas

 

Originally sold in Spain, registered in Barcelona:

http://arqueologiadelmotor.blogspot.com/2010/02/desde-el-exilio-maserati-5000-gt.html

 

Thank you for the link !
Best regards
Nicolas

 

#058

coachwork: Allemano


2. April 1962 Completed
Painted Blue with white leather interior
Lucas fuel injection, 5-speed ZF manual

1964 Delivered new to Auto-Paris, Madrid/E
9 July 1964 sold to José Bascones Ayneto, Barcelona/E
1981 sold to Tom Oleson, Piso 9-1, Orense 32, Madrid 20, Spain
May 1981 offered by Oleson for PDS 19.000 in T&CC 5/82 p95; dark blue/black, Borranis, one-owner
1990 sold to Jean Guikas, Marseille, France - GTC
10. Dec. 199 - Auctioned at an auction in Paris but remained unsold
1994 old to Michel Hommel, France
1994 - 2002 displayed at Hommel's museum 'Manoir de l'Automobile' in Lohéac, France

Ciao!
Walter

 

i know the owner..

Nik

 

Nik,
you are my hero!!!!

Ciao!
Walter

 

In the net there are actually a lot of pictures of 103-058. The Engine is different from the "usual" 5000 GT engines I know (I am not talking about the colour).

It has single ignition only and a complete different distributor drive. It looks more like a QP1 engine equipped with fuel injection.

What I found was:

http://www.auction.fr/FR/vente_/v9163_artcurial_briest_poulain_tajan/l1230001_maserati_5000_gt_coupe_allemano_1964.html

If you scroll down, something with an installed marine-engine is mentioned, unfortunately in french, of wich I do not speak a single word.

The idea of a 500 HP Marine engine installed in such a car is great.......

Hopefully, somebody can translate ansd explain to us.

best regards from Cologne
Jörg

 

Jörg,not sure if the car will be on display at Techno Classica in Essen next month.
But it would not wonder me if someone had a standart V8-motor (QP`s / Hhibli etc) installed!

Ciao!
Walter

 

Can you say me the name please ?
Her is my e-mail adress.
[email protected]

Best regards
Nicolas

 

How many 5000 GT had the "Indianapolis" badge? All the Fuel Injected?

 

As far as I know only one car has this "Indianapolis"-badge!

Ciao!
Walter

 

Walter,

Your store of photos is amazing. Is there anything you don't have in that treasure chest?

Elliot Siegel

 

Elliott,
I have now a little over 8,000 Maserati-photos in my archive....and still I am missing some!

Ciao!
Walter

 

Here are photo from this auction .
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Jörg and I we both investigated the 5000 GT, chassis #058, on display with Christophe Pund in Essen, Germany for this week.

The rear-lights are original. The surrounding design of the panels fit exactly to this different lights. The car also has much differences in the greenhouse-section (rear).

We are just requesting more infos about the non-standart engine. Jörg strongly believes that this is a boat-engine. More on this later .

Ciao!
Walter

 

Walter and Jorg ( sorry Jorg, no umlaut on my computer )

I have been reading your comments relating to the 5000 GT No 058 and may be able to shed a little light on your observations. I have recently acquired engine No 066, from the last Allemano car and, like the engine fitted to car 058, this is a single distributor 8 plug engine like the V8s used in later models. It also has the same single butterfly intake manifold identical to the one in the 058 car. Hopefully I will be able to attach a photo of this engine, but bear with me, this is my first post ! The engine is needing a full rebuild and again , like 058 is not painted is the usual green of most 5000GT cars.

No 058 was built in April '64 , the next 5000GT to be fitted with the 5 litre engine was 066 in October, the last 2 cars produced thereafter were fitted with 4.7 and 4.2 litre engines. It may be possible that 058 and 066 these were the only 2 cars to be fitted with this modified engine, although I have no evidence of engine types of cars built from late '63.

Reading the French text which accompanies the 058 article, I believe that the last owner/collector thought the car was fitted with a marine engine as it looks almost identical to type 202 which was a marine racing engine ,and shares all the characteristics , inlet manifold, 8 plugs, single distributor etc of the 058 car . Indeed, this was also the same capacity ( 4941 cc ). It may be that the revised layout accounted for the extra power which he believed the car had relative to other 5000GTs that he owned.

Walter,

I note from a previous thread that you believe 066 may have been used in a 151 car at Le Mans before being fitted to the 5000GT, I would appreciate any information you may have on this.
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Did someone post the #050 for sale ad already?
Weird to see such a fabulous car in this condition and with missing engine again!

http://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car/46863/index.html?no_cache=1
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....and the engine is.......??

Ciao!
Walter

 

Engine and gearbox are missing like the ad says, but two engines seem to be on the market??
Very weird.

 

I brokered the original engine 3 years ago!

Ciao!
Walter

 

Okay..
The engine was with the car when it was sold to Germany.
Was it IN the car also? Or different engine in the car and original engine outside the car

And why would someone sell the original engine and keep the car???
A 5000 GT with its original engine is worth more then a separate 5000GT engine and a car WITHOUT engine.

And even if that isn't the case, engine and car should be and stay together.

 

Yes as Nigel already pointed out:

Notre collectionneur se rappelle cette voiture qui lui avait paru anormalement puissante, la plus impressionnante des cinq 5000 GT qu'il a possédé. Son opinion corroborée par un des essayeurs Maserati de l'époque, Cleto Randi, est que # 058 fut équipée à l'époque d'un moteur marine Maserati de 5'7 de cylindrée. A l'appui de cette thèse, la pipe d'admission très spéciale de 058 est la même que sur les moteurs marins de la firme. Nous avons demandé confirmation à l'usine.


If Cleto Grandi says it is a boat engine as this part of the french auction text states then it is true: have had countless conversations with him and he is a great source of information.

best regards,

Marc

 

The original engine was damaged and not installed when the car was sold to Germany.
Why the owner sold the engine a little later seperately is unknown to me. For sure it was a foolish decision but the then-time owner -who purchased the car from Joop Stolze- was/is a very difficult person!

One of the two 5000GT-engines that are on the market today, was stolen from the Factory-display on the Geneva Auto Show in 1999!

Ciao!
Walter