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'68 206 and '70 246 GT Dino-

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  1. tonyh

    tonyh F1 World Champ
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    Hi all. Just browsing through Maranello's Guide to Ferrari Road cars booklet and i see a 206 GT was launched in '68 followed by 246 in '70. What's difference between models and why were so few 206s built,152 206s vs 2487 246s?
    Thanks :)
     
  2. rwk360

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    Any good Ferrari reference book, or better yet, a Dino book will detail the differences. BTW, the initial year for the 246 was 1969 (the L-series, one of which I own), and it shared many parts with the 206; many L-series parts do not interchange with later 246 Dinos.
     
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  3. dm_n_stuff

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    #3 dm_n_stuff, Dec 27, 2005
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    I was sure we'd had at least one discussion here about the differences, but I can only find reference to the difference between the early and later 246 models.

    here's a chart.
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  4. BigTex

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    I believe the 206 had different engine mounting as well, (In line vs. transverse)????

    Not many made it to the street, as they all became hill climb race cars!!!!!

    Beautiful ones, at that!
     
  5. dm_n_stuff

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    Are you thinking the race cars? the street car 206Gt had a transverely mounted 2.0 Liter V6.
     
  6. tonyh

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    There were some visual differences as well.

    Knock off wheels.
    External Gas filler.
    slightly lower overall height 2" approx.
    aluminum body panels vs/ steel for 246

    (although some early 246 cars had knock offs and used some of the leftover aluminum panels.)

    there's more, I just can't seem to get my breain to engage.

    DM
     
  8. 4CamGT

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    There are basically FOUR main variations/evolutions of the production Ferrari Dino:

    1) 206GT; *00102*-*00410*; 153 produced (all coupes, all Euro spec)
    - alloy body
    - short wheelbase
    - rudge/knockoff wheels
    - 2 liter V6 alloy motor 180bhp
    - firewall mounted headrests
    - Passenger footrest/grabhandle
    - center console mounted climate controls
    - 380mm wood steering wheel
    - 185VR15 Tires
    -straight eared rudge spinners
    -thin bumpers
    -exposed gas cap

    2)246GT/L; *00400*-*01116*; 357 produced (all coupes, all Euro spec)
    - as above except:
    - steel body w/ alloy opening panels (doors, trunk, engine lid, hood)
    - long wheelbase (ALL PANEL AND GLASS MEASUREMENTS ARE IDENTICAL TO THE 206GT INCLUDING HEIGHT except for 2.3" extra length in panel behind the doors and engine lid hence one extra vent slot. This is from my own measurements based on both cars being equipped with 205 tires as well as the factory homologation papers)
    - 2.4 liter cast iron V6 195bhp
    - 205VR15 Tires
    - 380mm wood wheel or 380mm Daytona style wheel
    - 206 fully adjustable suspension up to chassis *00508*
    - straight eared or curved rudge spinners
    - gas cap under filler door

    3)246GT/M; *01118*-*02130*; 506 produced (all coupes,)
    - as above except:
    - early ones still had thin bumpers up to chassis *01250*
    - bolt on wheels
    - headrests mounted on seats
    - climate controls mounted on center dash
    - all steel body (some had alloy engine lids, trunk, hood?)

    4) 246GT/E; *02132*-*08518*;1624 coupes, 1274 spyders;(Euro and U.S. spec)
    - first U.S. federalized version at chassis *02866*(coupe), 175bhp
    - first "GTS" at chassis *03408*
    - "flairs and chairs" option

    Note: This is just a general "spotters guide" from my own observations. Of course there are many other detail differences.

    Freeman Thomas
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  9. BigTex

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    That must be it, I'm confusing the race versions.........
     
  10. tonyh

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    Great info , thank you :) Any chance you can post pics of the 356 speedster pls ? ;)
     
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    Great info guy's
     
  12. 4CamGT

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    Tony,

    Just go to the Southern California thread on the main menu then go to Crystal Cove images from the week before Xmas and the week before that. Its the red one with the black "Glasspar" hardtop.

    Freeman
     
  13. tonyh

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    Freeman,
    The epitome of cool , IMHO . You have outstanding taste in cars :)
     
  14. Kram

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    I hear tell that the big difference between the 206 and the 246 (from a maintenance perspective) is that the 206 has one bank of the V six right on top of the fire wall. Getting out the sparkplugs is one tough job. As noted by 4camGT the 206 has an extra vent in its longer engine hatch and 2.3 inches ‘twixt door end and car rump. That 2.3 lets you do a plug change.

    Although this was passed on to me anecdotally by a 206 owner 25 years ago it made a big impression: At the time I had a Miura S. Half the carbs had to come off to change the plugs nearest the firewall (20 min in stop/go rush hour = 12 new plugs). One of the nuts holding on a triple choke Webber needed a box wrench sawn in half to get it off – there was no room to spin a whole wrench one flat, so, when starting from scratch one had to start sawing chrome vanadium steel in order to do a plug change. That, as you can imagine, was a complete delight.
     
  15. synchro

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    Count the number of slots in the rear deck for engine vents
     
  16. lm2504me

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    Freeman,
    I think you meant 185vr14 and 205vr14 for the wheel sizes.

    Thanks for the details,
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  17. 4CamGT

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    Richard,

    You are correct. I was having too much Porsche on my mind.

    Freeman
     
  18. 4CamGT

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    Note: This is just a general "spotter's guide" from my own observations and reading.
     
  19. wlemasters

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    Just to add a few more to F. Thomas's comprehensive list of the differences between the 206gt and L series 246:

    >The 206 had a unique transmission shift knob. It has the front finger grips like a 330gtc (and probably others) but with a shift pattern impregnated under clear resin on the top. That and the outside filler cap for the gas are unique to the 206 and on no other Ferrari's that I know of.

    >The 206 used Girling calipers and the 246 used the ATE's.

    >The engine cover has only 6 louvers a side and the 246 has 7.

    >I owned an original 246gt and the dash was aluminum with the metal finish. The 206 used an aluminum panel but it was painted aluminum.

    >The cam covers on the 206 engine were painted black as opposed to the Aluminum finish on the 246.

    >The 206gt engines had a s/n stamped on the block and on the transmission. Mine are 17 and 16 respectively.

    >The fuse boxes were slightly different.

    >The vent window latches are different. They are the same as period Alfa's but have spacer added to the base for window frame clearance.

    >Just for info., my car was very original. When I took it apart, the only place on the car that said Ferrari was the cover plate of the air filter. Of course, when I repainted it, I taped over the original silk screening to preserve it.

    >I recently had the pleasure of viewing a late (mostly original) 206gt before it went to a new home in Hawaii and it had some interior differences. The vinyl in the early 206's was slightly different in the pattern and the early cars had seat inserts that were almost a terry cloth texture. The earlier 206's also had the same vinyl on the dash top as in the rest of the car versus the mouse skin that eventually came into production.

    >I also believe the first production car was VIN 104. Mine is 126 and many of the body parts are stamped 12 indicating it was the 12th one in production.

    That is enough 206 trivia for one night.

    Bill LeMasters
     
  20. andrewg

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    Tony, the other difference is the amount of RHD cars...........0 206! (although there have been a couple of period conversions)
     
  21. shaughnessy

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    Correction

    L series cars use Girling brakes calipers and same suspension components and uprights as 206's
     
  22. rwk360

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    Tom S. et al, does this mean that my early L, presumably with it's Girling brake calipers, will use a different set of disc pads than the ATE's of later Dino's?
     
  23. 4218

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    Hallo everybody !

    Anyone has some pics of Dino 206 that Lodovico Scarfiotti used in 1965 to win the European Mountain Championship ?

    Thank you

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