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Discussion in 'FF/GTC4Lusso/F12/812S' started by dcmetro, Nov 18, 2018.

  1. dcmetro

    dcmetro F1 Veteran

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    You're likely lucky :D
     
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  2. dcmetro

    dcmetro F1 Veteran

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    That's now a fact.
     
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  3. JackCongo

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    I got mine for September 8!
     
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  4. BaronM69

    BaronM69 Formula Junior
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    Any US person got their invite already?
     
  5. Eilig

    Eilig Formula 3

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    Spoken to two US dealers, and so far neither has any knowledge of it!
     
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  6. ajr550

    ajr550 Formula Junior

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    Probably done by region.
    I had an invite for 2 Sept (UK) but am not really into convertibles so passed.
     
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  7. Sushistar

    Sushistar Karting

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    I wish I could say this. Congratulation.
     
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  8. deltona

    deltona Formula 3

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    My invite also confirmed today for 2nd Sepetmber (UK Client).

    I wonder if we'll see the car annouced online before?
     
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  9. Scraggy

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    Anyone got a sense on :

    1. Any engine mods

    2. Pricing (UK)

    On latter a good spec 812 is currently £350k, assume Spider (am told called GTS but maybe wrong as that’s a Targa designation) will be £425k, anyone expect Ferrari to get punchier on pricing than that ?

    3. Wonder how much weight they will have to add to stop the wobbles that even affect the mid engine stuff.
     
  10. davide b

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    40k€ more of standard 812 approx
     
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  11. Scraggy

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    Cheap then
     
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  12. KarlA69

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    I spoke to my UK based dealer today. As noted above, invites are out for the Sept launch event. While the car won't be strictly limited numbers, he thinks total production will be similar to Pista Spyder. He mentioned if you aren't invited to the event you have very little chance of getting the car.

    Disappointing for someone like me who got their hopes up (a little) when I heard it was not a limited (by number) production run. I have only bought one new F car (Portofino) so have no chance... in Ferrari's eyes I am the equivalent of something unpleasant stuck to the bottom of one's (fine Italian leather) boot...!
     
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  13. Il Co-Pilota

    Il Co-Pilota Formula Junior

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    I really hope that's supposed to be funny. That's simply reading way too much into it and taking things way too personal.

    They make a low volume car, and they have a lot of potential clients. They have to start somewhere and why not start with the clients that has spent the most time and money with the brand? It has nothing to do with you being something unpleasant in Ferraris eyes, that's simply not true. Just because you don't qualify for this particular car at this time, does it not mean your dealer and Ferrari does not value you as a customer.

    Ferrari wants their clients to be part of a culture and the brand, and they "reward" this. Having a Ferrari in the garage is not exactly the same as being heavily involved. Doing events, taking Corse Pilota, driving the Challenge series etc. that's what it's about. The clients with several cars that participate in the events, are first and foremost the clients they look at, and that makes perfect sense.
     
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  14. JagShergill

    JagShergill Formula Junior

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    Confirmed
     
  15. Lukeylikey

    Lukeylikey Formula 3
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    #240 Lukeylikey, Jul 17, 2019
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    Had a conversation today, first informing me that my TM 812 is delayed, probably until October and definitely a 2020 MY (very disappointed but what can you do? Dealer is working hard to try and sort it to arrive as soon as possible but c’est la vie).

    Following some comments about GPF on fchat earlier, plus some information I gleaned from Rennlist - I have just bought a 991.2 GT3RS - I asked about any changes for 2020 other than GPF and it sounds like there are some significant ones. Cue ‘ITB’s’. On Rennlist I was interested to learn that there is a 991.3 (effectively) which is the 991.2 with GPF and Individual Throttle Bodies. Rather than decry this, they have a different thought. Sure, GPF can take away from sound, but there are ways for the manufacturer to get around that. The good news is that GPF comes with ITBs, which bring the very valuable benefit of even more immediate throttle response on full and partial throttle - very handy for an RS, and also handy, IMV for an 812.

    So back to my chat. My dealer seemed to confirm that the 2020 812 comes with ITBs and additional software to make sure that performance is improved - though not sure exactly what. While GPFs are not ideal, it remains to be seen whether the news is all bad or if in fact there are ‘swings and roundabouts’ involved here. The link below gives a good explanation of the benefits of ITBs.

     
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  16. PA Wolfpacker

    PA Wolfpacker Formula Junior

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    My dealer in the US confirms it will not be a limited production car and I can order one. I have purchased 3 new Fcars but all were V8s.
    Based on this it seems there will not be many restrictions on your ability to order the car.
     
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  17. dustman

    dustman F1 Rookie

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    What I was told also. But who really knows inside Ferrari.
     
  18. Art_collector

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    My dealer can’t confirm my order “yet” and I’m on the list that the factory send to the dealer. They think that the will get almost the same amount as the pista spider, maybe 1 or 2 more.

    Currently I have 4 Ferrari’s (one of them is a 812) in the garage and a pista spider & SF90 in order. So I don’t think that the car will be limited by number but it still will be hard to get, otherwise my dealer already confirmed my order in my opinion.

    I think that some dealers are now collecting all the order they can and going to push the factory to get more cars. What always is the case by Ferrari I think.
     
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  19. JagShergill

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    I didn’t know about itbs!! So thanks buddy
     
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  21. Eilig

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    Then the interesting proposition becomes retrofitting ITB setup onto pre-GPF 812 engine... :) :)
     
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  22. Il Co-Pilota

    Il Co-Pilota Formula Junior

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    Definitely an interesting thought. But I suspect it will be rather complicated. I would not be surprised if they revamped the entire top end for a new ITB/DFI engine. And even if the new intake will bolt up, there's no guarantee that the cam specs on the normal 812 engine will like the new setup. Would not be surprised if they redesigned the heads to work with the different runner lengths as well as new cams etc.

    But it would still be a cool project:)
     
  23. italiafan

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    I think the 812 Spider could be epic...I just hope the GPF and nannies don't diminish the car too much. They are among the finest engineers in the World though, and I will give them the benefit of the doubt.
    Can't wait to see it.
     
  24. Challenge64

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    WHAT???? Please tell me what you know!
     
  25. nycbrose

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    +1
     

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