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Monza SP1 & SP2

Discussion in 'Icona Series (SP1, SP2, & SP3)' started by ajr550, Sep 4, 2018.

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  1. crinoid

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    #426 crinoid, Oct 2, 2018
    After market wheel manufacturers do this all the time. Not uncommon to get a desired stance. I’ve seen many Ferrari’s like this.
     
  2. Griffon83

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    #427 Griffon83, Oct 2, 2018
    Paris Motor Show 2018 by Motor1 Italia.

     
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    #429 Marcel Massini, Oct 2, 2018
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  5. REALZEUS

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    #430 REALZEUS, Oct 2, 2018
    I am not going to Paris this year, but it would interesting if anyone who does did confirm it.
     
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    #431 G. Pepper, Oct 2, 2018
    Now I can't stop noticing that the fronts look larger.
     
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    #433 G. Pepper, Oct 2, 2018
    Ack! I can't stand that smarmy tosser.
     
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    #434 Bundy, Oct 2, 2018
    I can’t watch him, either. Then again, I generally change the channel when Obama or Trump speak, or when any reality TV show comes on, and mute ever commercial, etc.


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  10. freshmeat

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    #435 freshmeat, Oct 2, 2018
    Jesus, I gave watching the clip a try, less than a minute in I had to abort...
     
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    #436 cloverleaf, Oct 2, 2018
    Typo I would say.
    You can clearly read ZR21 on the sidewall:
    [​IMG]

    By the way, the Monza must be the first Ferrari with factory 21-inch diameter tires.
     
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  12. REALZEUS

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    #437 REALZEUS, Oct 2, 2018
    Great find. Thank you, sir.
     
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  14. Griffon83

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    #439 Griffon83, Oct 2, 2018
    Helluva of profit margin Ferrari is going to generate from the ICONA range.

    No surprise how many Ferraris you have to own to be one of the lucky 499.
     
  15. j09333

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    #440 j09333, Oct 2, 2018
    Names are now being processed. I am not on the list :(
    Well, I have to stop watching monza pics and vids lol
     
  16. F12KID

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    #441 F12KID, Oct 3, 2018
    Lol x 812.....
     
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    #442 TSOYBELIS, Oct 3, 2018
    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Photos by: Vince_1982 IG
     
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  18. lechevalcabre

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    #443 lechevalcabre, Oct 3, 2018
    Wow! Monza SP1 in this color is just a masterpiece!
     
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    #445 F12KID, Oct 3, 2018
    Masterpiece irrespective of colour....
     
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  22. nis1973

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    #447 nis1973, Oct 3, 2018
    I do like the styling a lot. I like the dash too which many here find too sparse and basic. To me it feels very appropriate for the overall minimalist, stripped down aesthetic. No complains there at all.

    However, it is a triumph of (beautiful) form over function. I think it is just too big for the kind of car that it presents itself as. The fact that it's stripped down yet not materially lighter than the 812 underscores that Ferrari is held back by its stubborn decision to stick to aluminum when its competitors have moved on with the times and embraced carbon (as has Ferrari itself for its truly special models like the LaFerrari). If Ferrari wants to create something truly special they have to work on weight - horsepower is cheap (the hellcat is 700+ for 65k!), low weight is special!

    My dream Monza would be:
    - same overall shape/style while generating meaningful downforce with no ungainly wings (clever undertrays and such);
    - 10% smaller in terms of length/width and 20-25% lighter;
    - given the lower weight they could use a smaller/lighter V12; 600hp in a 2,500 - 2,600 pound car would be amazing;

    That'd be a truly epic car! It'd cost a lot (maybe more than a lot!) of money to develop but they are already charging the kind of money that's consistent with significant development costs...
     
  23. REALZEUS

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    #448 REALZEUS, Oct 3, 2018
    While you have some valid points, engine development is still the biggest expense of a manufacturer. It may be relatively easy to strap a humongous supercharger on a unsophisticated V8, but a N/A Ferrari V12 that revs to 9000 RPM is black magic!!! Other than that, the Monza is just a cash cow.
     
  24. amenasce

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    #449 amenasce, Oct 3, 2018
    I agree. This car a bit smaller but with 200 kgs less would have been amazing. A carbon tub would have saved a lot of weight. And if's gonna cost $1.5m+(*500u), then they surely could have spent the money to make it as such.
     
  25. bwshihtzu

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    #450 bwshihtzu, Oct 3, 2018
    Apologies for OT question but has Peter Mann confirmed whether he is getting an Monza SP2? If yes I can't wait to see his tradional color spec on one.
     
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