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812 Price in USA vs. Germany

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  1. alfran

    alfran Rookie

    Mar 10, 2015
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    Does anyone know what is the German sticker price for the 812 with and without VAT? I would like to compare it to the just published US prices. Based on another chat, it would appear that the US Options are about 40% higher than UK prices including VAT translated to $ at the current market rates. Does anyone know why we seem to get a special treatment?
     
  2. nads

    nads Formula Junior

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    Punishment for voting Trump in? :eek::D
     
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  3. clockem

    clockem Formula 3

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    Can you please share the US prices? Thank you
     
  4. alfran

    alfran Rookie

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    $ 343 K without options
     
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  5. clockem

    clockem Formula 3

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    Thanks do you happen to have the complete option list with pricing? I have the complete option list for the US but it does not have the pricing.
     
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  6. hs355

    hs355 Karting

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    The German base Price is 244865 EUR without VAT, 291.390 EUR incl. VAT.
     
  7. alfran

    alfran Rookie

    Mar 10, 2015
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    thanks. The price in US is about the same than Germany, but with no taxes, therefore it is about 20% higher
     
  8. alfran

    alfran Rookie

    Mar 10, 2015
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    Gary,
    Yes I do, take the posting about the UK option prices, convert the British pound prices ( including VAT) to $ at 0.76 to 1 and add 25 to 35 % and you get the approximate USA prices.
    Here are some examples:
    Racing wheels 9787 US vs 7326 UK
    Special colors 12487 vs. 9347
    Carbon steering wheels with LED 5062 vs 3789
    Shield 1856 vs 1389
    Rear Parking camera 2700 vs 2021
    Full electric seats 6243 vs 4674
     
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  9. MalibuGuy

    MalibuGuy F1 Veteran

    Sep 18, 2007
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    In the US we have to pay a state tax and license registration fees. Dealer also charges a prep fee and delivery fee

    I’m not sure if the quoted price of 340 USD includes any of these.

    Hopefully it does includes gas guzzler fee
     
  10. 21ATS

    21ATS Formula Junior

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    #10 21ATS, Nov 25, 2017
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2017
    The disparity with US vs UK pricing is not currently confined to Ferrari. Most German made vehicles also appear to be cheaper in the UK.

    Much of it is to do with the current exchange rate situation post Brexit which is currently floating around USD1:30 to GBP1.00 when the longer term average is realistically somewhere closer to USD 1:50 - 1:60 to GBP 1:00. (the Euro is also currently unusually strong vs the GBP creating the same anomaly across EU pricing).

    If UK prices were adjusted accordingly then people simply wouldn't pay the prices here in the UK, or the volume would drop appreciably.

    This is sustainable by the fact that the UK is RHD and the manufacturers can ring fence UK sales to the UK market only therefore making it difficult for overseas buyers in LHD drive markets placing orders here and enjoying the exchange rate benefits.

    The manufacturers are therefore currently subsidising GBP sales on the asumption that once the UK has left Europe the rates will stabilise closer to long term averages, or alternatively they've (historically) hedged the exchange rate far enough in the future to cover what is needed.
     
  11. clockem

    clockem Formula 3

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    I checked with FNA and the US pricing is still not out and was also confirmed by my dealer. We will have to wait and see what Ferrari decides to price the 812 in the US.
     
  12. alfran

    alfran Rookie

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  13. alfran

    alfran Rookie

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    Sorry to contradict you. The prices were issued on Nov 7
     
  14. NeilF8888

    NeilF8888 Formula 3

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    What is the base list price in the USA?
     
  15. alfran

    alfran Rookie

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  16. clockem

    clockem Formula 3

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    alfran, do you have the detailed price list with all the options? Would appreciate it if you would post it. Thank you. I want to see what the price of the 812 that I just ordered will be.
     
  17. MalibuGuy

    MalibuGuy F1 Veteran

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    Thanks!

    The relative strength of the US dollar has fluctuated quite a bit

    Brexit initially weakened both the British pound and the Euro.

    More recently the dollar has weakened against both currencies.

    Of course, the relative
    strength of the Euro vs the US dollar will factor into the final determination of US pricing.
     
  18. alfran

    alfran Rookie

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    let me know which ones you need and I will post them, or alternatively send me your fax # and I will send them to you
     
  19. clockem

    clockem Formula 3

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    Just sent you a message. Thanks. If you did not get it let me know.
     
  20. alfran

    alfran Rookie

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    No, I did not get it
     
  21. clockem

    clockem Formula 3

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    if you would not mind emailing the US price list to me at [email protected] I would appreciate it. Thank you
     
  22. jumpinjohn

    jumpinjohn F1 Veteran
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    Post for all of us to see, if you don’t mind... :)


    Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
     
  23. BarryK

    BarryK Formula 3

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    What's with the secrecy? It's just a list of prices after all. I posted the full UK list I received in a recent thread, and no one has come knocking on my door around midnight....(yet) :)
     
  24. chet

    chet F1 Rookie
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    Here's the 812 US option list.
     

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  25. clockem

    clockem Formula 3

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    Chet, do you know the base price including transportation? Thanks
     

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