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812 production delays?

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  1. clockem

    clockem Formula 3

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    Has anyone heard about any production delays of the 812? My dealer in the US has placed several customer orders back in October and none have moved to Red 10.

    Thanks.


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  2. junc

    junc Formula Junior
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    I think we have the same dealer . I’m one of those orders. They told me that there have been delays including no January allocations in the US. Interested in hearing from others.


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  3. Maximus1973

    Maximus1973 Formula 3

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    Delays are supposedly due to the carbon parts is what I've been told.
     
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  4. Bibendum

    Bibendum Rookie

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    There was guidance as to which parts to avoid when ordering to avoid delays. Unclear that would result in zero allocations, if that is the case.


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  5. clockem

    clockem Formula 3

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    Curious if you know what those parts are?
     
  6. Maximus1973

    Maximus1973 Formula 3

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    I have no clue. I went banans and got them all!
     
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  7. NeilF8888

    NeilF8888 Formula 3

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    My 812 has lots of carbon and was delivered just before Christmas. I was told not ordering the passenger delay could delay your car, so I added it to my options and the car went red 10 and into production the following week. It could have been a coincidence who knows?
     
  8. ferr9000

    ferr9000 Formula Junior

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    Maybe this comment could help.
    I think the reason is not about specific parts that you have ordered.
    I have noticed several orders and cars already builded that have showed a slow process in terms of enter/exit from the Ferrari/dealers factory/system. This process could be slower or faster depending the market that you are and also the priority of your order in your region according to your dealer.

    To understand better, for example the US market have a very high demand and orders are entering one by one depending how factory (and then FNA) is giving the slots to each dealer.
    Another example and a different case, my 812 is already finished almost 1 month ago and is still near the factory stored waiting for its delivery. For my market this would be the first 812 so probably it is taking more time to line up some internal things between Factory, region and dealer.
     
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  9. Hiper

    Hiper Formula Junior

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    I configured my car at the factory atelier in Feb. during the 812 preview event and placed my order in May once the "production systems" opened, the first official 812 order at the dealer. Even the My Ferrari site confirms my order as placed in May.

    Cars that were ordered 2 and 3 months after my car were delivered around Christmas and my car isn't even built yet! My car has nothing that is out of the ordinary apart from the Extra Campionario (triple-layer) paint. I've seen several triple-layer 812s already delivered around the world on the 812 photos thread so that shouldn't be an excuse for the delay.

    Over and above that, the dealer's kept quite and has never given me any updates. I only found out the status of my car after contacting Ferrari's regional office.

    Unfortunately Ferrari has a horrible production system with zero sense of first-in first-out processing of orders. Having an incompetent dealer with poor communication skills doesn't help.
     
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  10. j09333

    j09333 Formula 3

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    Sorry to hear that. Some 812 is at staus red 10 despite when the order was placed. So far 5 order was in and only 1 car made above 10 at this moment for my region too.
    Lets hope your car pops up the stage way faster than usual eventually which is always the case of Ferrari system until now.
     
  11. Red Sled

    Red Sled Formula Junior

    Congrats on the car. Looks superb.

    Quick question: do you have any idea why the lack of passenger display would delay the car (assuming that the source of the delay was the factory not a dealer tactic)? I've ordered one without the display, and am curious.

    Enjoy in good health!
     
  12. Hiper

    Hiper Formula Junior

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    Thanks. I wonder whether they're working on improving their production systems. Marchionne just announced record profits, higher volume targets, and 550 million euros in capex. Let's hope that investment means shorter and better production times and improved quality.
     
  13. REALZEUS

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    I think there's a shortage in the panels that take the place of the screen. Crazy, I know. Unless they are just scamming us...
     
  14. clockem

    clockem Formula 3

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    Don’t think it’s the shortage of the panels as my car has been ordered with the passager display and is still not red 10 since being ordered in October.
     
  15. CT Audi Fan

    CT Audi Fan Formula Junior

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    Hmmm ... they can’t seem to produce enough of the $1.98 blank plates but do have plenty of the $5k passenger displays ... very peculiar :)


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  16. carlom001

    carlom001 Formula Junior

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    Unfortunately I doubt very much the build priority is determined by when the orders went into the MODIS system. My understanding of how it works is that when the Dealer is informed of their actual build allocation in terms of monthly build slots 6 or so months in advance, the dealer then nominates which customer order receives the specific monthly build allocation, then notifies the customer they need to firm up their order (if not subject to a future atelier or TM visit) as the car will be built in the coming months before it is finally locked. This is also the process for Porsche dealers for their GT3 etc cars.
     
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  17. bradb1us

    bradb1us Karting

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    My dealer has told me mine is delayed as well (Utah Ferrari dealer).
     
  18. clockem

    clockem Formula 3

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    Would be interested to know what is the reason for the delay? Could just be reallocation of cars to different parts of the world?
     
  19. junc

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    Latest Ive heard was delay is due to supplier issues which some have mentioned. Nothing specific beyond that. Salesman did say that all 812s delivered from here on out will be MY 19. That might be a bad thing if its an indication of how delayed production will be or could just be Ferrari randomly deciding to go with later model year.
     
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  20. Dolceexte

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    I think this means most of the production now is made August+ 2018, which is 2019 MY
     
  21. Scraggy

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    It’s actually laughable. Ferrari are super lucky they are not running Samsung or Apple, its so amateurish. Part of the “charm” I guess.
     
  22. clockem

    clockem Formula 3

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    As a public company, if ALL 812's are delayed until delivery in the third quarter you would think they would disclose that to shareholders as a material event.
     
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  23. junc

    junc Formula Junior
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    Yeah not so sure. I received my 488 gtb in late June of 2016 and it was MY 17 so there might be some flexibility with the designation. Hopefully the cars arrive prior to third quarter.


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  24. Hiper

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    Can't be supplier issues. Several other 812s ordered after mine have already been delivered, and there's nothing unique in terms of parts on my car compared to those delivered that would cause a delay. Just horrible production planning. They should learn a thing or 2 from the Germans.
     
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  25. REALZEUS

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    Such as emissions scandals and bribery?
     
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