Sorry, but yes. The 812 is an ugly car compared to the F12. I literally hate it. This is just a confused mishmash of conflict. Image Unavailable, Please Login I've studied and contemplated esthetics all my life. The above is hideous to me, while this is infinitely better. Image Unavailable, Please Login Everything flows. I honestly don't know how the 812 design escaped Ferrari's studio, but they've made ugly cars before.
I have to strongly disagree. I give the nod to the F12 on front design, but I can't get into the rear design. 812 is fantastic from the back side to me.
I'm gonna go against the grain here but I don't like the back of the F12. It looks like a uterus, which is why I went 812.
I think it's a good hypothesis. I'm sure the F154 V8 engine will definitely retire after the SF90 Spider. As far as we know, there is no new V8 development in the short time. Apparently, Ferrari will compose its lineup with the new V12 N/A, and the V6T+hybrid from the 296 GTB. If Ferrari will use the new V12 even at Purosangue, which will have a higher production volume, it is because it is betting heavily on this engine. The SF90 Stradale, after all the investment in the project and the long time between the launch and delivery of the cars, is going out of production very early. The chance of receiving the new V12 in a Modificata version, with hybridization, I see as reasonable to happen. day355, could you give us any clues about this?
Will the V12 be a 6.5L or have a smaller displacement? Will it contain some sort of assistance - battery?
I expressed myself wrong. Sorry. When I said that I'm sure the F154 will be discontinued after the SF90 Spider, it was in the sense that apparently there would not be new developments using this engine. Of course, in line with this power train, we have the SF 90 Spider, Portofino M, Roma. But I've heard rumors that the next generation from Portofino/Roma will have the 296's V6. Obs.: I had not seen the post in which Mr Massini claims that Purosangue will have the V8. So, desconsider what I said about there being no new developments with this engine.
But, the base V8s appear to be different: the SF90 uses a 4.0L (3990cc) V8, the Roma and Portofino use 3.9L (3855cc); the SF90 V8 is unique in its displacement and not used in any other production (hybrid or not)
I always said the F12 was wearing thong underwear. That’s all I see looking at the rear, it’s just not a good design in my eyes.
F12 looks great from the front and side but the rear is butt ugly. The 812 is the opposite- the front end doesn’t quite make it. The sides not as good as the F12 but not horrible and the rear better than the F12. Hopefully third time is a charm and Ferrari gets the successor right from all angles. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
When i saw the picture of the silver car with the black wheels (#283), i immediately thought of "The Flintstones". So I made a little cartoon about it... sorry! And the word "Ferrari Dino" now has a new meaning for me ... Image Unavailable, Please Login
I don't have the proof since I don't know that code. However I think it's impossible the same code could apply to two projects with big technical differences like engine position.
Yeah, totally agree to that. It makes sense that the project has been linked to a front V12 right from the beginning and did not change in such a dramatic way in the middle of the development. So the mid-rear V12 rumors might come from something else. Fingers crossed.
There have been 3 different management, including the intermediate in 4 years ... What I want to tell you is that we will have to be content with the good that arrives, in the context where we are. And the 167 is still good! There is the hybrid Ferrari (SF 90, 296) which is symbolically a new brand, and the genetic Ferrari( 812 C,GTS, 167 ). For the latter, it is in this thread that everything will happen for the range that a majority of enthusiasts can acquire. However, we will have to deal with digital ... unfortunately. Roma is a great car, let's not forget, it would be sad and will be even better without the roof.
