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  1. jumpinjohn

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    Everyone worries too much.


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  2. 4re4ever

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    #4352 4re4ever, Sep 2, 2023
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    Fighter Planes tend to suggest to me a little more old school style. Exhaust pipes and gill style vents out the side of the engine bay hehe
     
  3. 4re4ever

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    overthinking
     
  4. Forza Scuderia

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    The first thing I thought of from this is that the cockpit greenhouse is a partial or near total glass canopy.
     
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  5. REALZEUS

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    You are probably thinking WW2 fighter planes...
     
  6. Forza Scuderia

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    Have you ever heard of an F-16 ? All glass canopy.

    What else could Day355 been referring to with this comment?
     
  7. Forza Scuderia

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    Jet fighter planes or WW2 propeller fighter planes?
     
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  8. Newjoint

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    Do we get rivets on the skin of the car like most jets too? If so I’ll take mine in plain aluminum(inium) [emoji12]


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  9. jumpinjohn

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  10. REALZEUS

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    I was referring to 4re4ever, who mentioned "old style" exhaust pipes and gills.

    Modern fighters look like this:

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  11. Forza Scuderia

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    Yeah. So what are the distinguishing characteristics of a modern jet fighter? 1. Giant air intakes. 2. Giant exhaust nozzles. 3. Mostly glass canopies.

    What are the characteristics of older prop driven WW2 fighters?
    1. One big whale shark mouth shaped air intake up front. 2. Side gills and exhaust pipes out the side of front fuselage. 3. Mostly glass canopies.

    It’s hard to envision anything other than the glass canopies being what Day355 was referring to, especially since he has said that ‘we will be talking about the rear’ and that it has a very innovative solution. A glass bubble rear canopy past the b-pillar could be what is being hinted at. It could even mean rear buttreseses made of glass.
     
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  12. REALZEUS

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    Remains to be seen. I just hope it looks modern, not retro.
     
  13. Frank_C

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    To me that implies a narrow and inward tapering rear cabin over curvaceous wide hips. More glass house? Trunk? Not a hatchback?

    Getting boring without more sightings
     
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    Yeah old old school lol the classic fighter planes Or maybe the beautiful F104 Star Fighter. But these new monsters are all controlled by computers and look horrible.
     

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  16. REALZEUS

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    The new fighters you called monsters though (the Su-57 I posted is the most beautiful bird ever IMHO, but that is just my opinion), at least handle well. because of the computers. The F-104 was a death trap. The Lufwaffe pilots called it "the flying coffin"....
     
  17. 4re4ever

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    Yeah took real pilots to fly them Just like the SR-71 Blackbird. Now days any keyboard warrior could punch a few buttons and do it.
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  18. REALZEUS

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    Doesn't have to do with the pilots. The F104 was just evil handling. It had a very high wing load, by design, and subsequently nasty flight characteristics. It went into stall at an inordinate frequency, but it's worst trait was the inability to recover from spin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_(aerodynamics)).

    The Blackbird has nothing to do with this discussion, even though another plane, which is still operational, is just as fast AND carries weapons...
     
  19. 4re4ever

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    The Blackbird was developed in the 1950s that's what made what it could do so special. Decade after decade was just catch up. The F 104 was more a rocket with wings lol. Most of todays aircraft are not about the pilots. Designers and engineers need real pilots back then to get the aircraft where they are today now days just just punch a few buttons. Information is the greatest weapon.
     
  20. Soleith

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    Horizontal vs vertical headlights.
     
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  21. REALZEUS

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    The Blackbird was designed in the 60s, not the '50s. The Soviets' MiG 25 reached the same speed, as a response, plus carrying weapons to shoot down the Blackbird (which is unarmed).
    That said, modern planes are much better because of their computers. just like modern cars are better than old ones.
     
  22. Newjoint

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    AI is the next step in fighter jet technology as current jets are limited by what human bodies can sustain in G forces. The future jets will be with remote pilots. Let’s hope Ferrari is not planning the same [emoji4]


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    I have an easy question, how long has the F167 design been decided? And has it been closed all this time or did they change or update anything since?
     
  24. 250boano

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    Sustained multi hour sorties vs one high speed shot before an engine replacement...hardly in the same ballpark.

    The SR-71 is in my mind the greatest engineering feat that (barely!) remained within the atmosphere
     
  25. Caeruleus11

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    And designed with slide rulers!

    I hope the 812 replacement brings back more of that old school vibe- though it can be a modern look- and doesnt look like a big Roma. But thats just me.


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